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Obama calls spending cuts dumb, arbitrary; And now the truth behind that statement
Topic Started: Mar 2 2013, 01:53 AM (319 Views)
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A door down the hall opens and the frontman for the president marches 100 feet to the office of Sen. Mitch McConnell. It's the last and final offer of Obama to salvage the dept talks going on in 2011. Out of a Reagan playbook the Obama team had come up with something not novel, but used by Reagan. A sequester. And the message was given that there was no room for negotiations on the proposed cuts in spending. All areas of the cuts were set in stone. At the same time Obama sent the same message to the senate majority leader.

So armed with this last chance morsel, both sides approved the plan as formulated by Obama.

So who is dumb here?

Now to the second point. As the republicans dully noted just weeks ago during the last spending negotiations. A tax increase was accepted but that would be it on the revenue side. Obama was told that he needed to get his ducks in a row and come up with cuts in spending in order to reach any future agreement.

So as the president goes around moping and gnashing his teeth, as he goes around calling others dumb, he is doing none of us any good. He is going to be hard pressed to keep kicking the ball down field, and demanding more revenue, when he has done nothing to solve the spending cuts.

One thing has become clear, Obama is a hell of a campaigner and extremely poor leader.


http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Obama-calls-spending-cuts-dumb-arbitrary-4319321.php

Obama calls spending cuts dumb, arbitrary

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press

Updated 9:34 am, Friday, March 1, 2013


WASHINGTON (AP) — A combative President Barack Obama blamed Republican lawmakers Friday for failing to stop automatic spending cuts that were to begin kicking in later in the day, calling the cuts "dumb, arbitrary."

Republicans said the fault was his, for insisting that increased taxes be part of the resolution.

The president said the impact of the cuts won't immediately be felt, but middle class families will begin to "have their lives disrupted in significant ways." He said that as long as the cuts stay in effect, Americans will know that the economy could have been better had they been averted.

"The pain, though, will be real," Obama said.
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"This is not a win for anybody. This is a loss for the American people," he said.

Obama, pressed on whether he bears some of the responsibility for the stalemate, expressed frustration. "Give me an example of what I might do," he challenged reporters.

"I am not a dictator. I'm the president," he said. He added that he can't do a "Jedi mind-meld" or use any "special sauce" to get Republicans to negotiate.

"I can't force Congress to do the right thing," Obama said.

He said he still believed the cuts could be replaced but he wanted a deal that includes more tax revenue by closing "wasteful" loopholes. He said it may take a couple of weeks or couple of months to find a fix for the impasse.

"Let's be clear: None of this is necessary," Obama said. "It's happening because of a choice that Republicans in Congress have made. We shouldn't be making a series of dumb, arbitrary cuts to things."

Obama met at the White House Friday morning with House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi.

Boehner's office said he and McConnell told Obama they're willing to close tax loopholes but only to lower taxes overall, not to replace spending cuts. Obama and congressional leaders have agreed that Congress should pass a bill funding the government beyond the end of March while they keep working on a way to replace the spending cuts, Boehner's office said.

"The president got his tax hikes on January 1st," Boehner said bluntly after the meeting with Obama. "The discussion about revenue in my view is over. It's about taking on the spending problem here in Washington."

On Thursday, two proposals aimed at blunting the blame over the cuts — one Democratic and the other Republican — were rejected in the Senate.

The meeting Friday was the first the two sides have had this year on the budget battle, and it lasted under an hour. Asked whether he couldn't get the parties in a room and stay there until they reach a deal, he noted that McConnell left the meeting early to catch a plane.

"I can't have Secret Service block the doorway," Obama said.

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Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politics/article/Obama-calls-spending-cuts-dumb-arbitrary-4319321.php#ixzz2MPC0qJsc
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Yep, the spending cuts were dumb, arbitrary. No one, including the Republicans thought they would ever come to be. So, the Republicans agreed to them and now may end up paying the price for so doing.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:53 AM
A door down the hall opens and the frontman for the president marches 100 feet to the office of Sen. Mitch McConnell. It's the last and final offer of Obama to salvage the dept talks going on in 2011. Out of a Reagan playbook the Obama team had come up with something not novel, but used by Reagan. A sequester. And the message was given that there was no room for negotiations on the proposed cuts in spending. All areas of the cuts were set in stone. At the same time Obama sent the same message to the senate majority leader.

So armed with this last chance morsel, both sides approved the plan as formulated by Obama.

So who is dumb here?

Now to the second point. As the republicans dully noted just weeks ago during the last spending negotiations. A tax increase was accepted but that would be it on the revenue side. Obama was told that he needed to get his ducks in a row and come up with cuts in spending in order to reach any future agreement.

So as the president goes around moping and gnashing his teeth, as he goes around calling others dumb, he is doing none of us any good. He is going to be hard pressed to keep kicking the ball down field, and demanding more revenue, when he has done nothing to solve the spending cuts.

One thing has become clear, Obama is a hell of a campaigner and extremely poor leader.


http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Obama-calls-spending-cuts-dumb-arbitrary-4319321.php

Obama calls spending cuts dumb, arbitrary

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press

Updated 9:34 am, Friday, March 1, 2013


WASHINGTON (AP) — A combative President Barack Obama blamed Republican lawmakers Friday for failing to stop automatic spending cuts that were to begin kicking in later in the day, calling the cuts "dumb, arbitrary."

Republicans said the fault was his, for insisting that increased taxes be part of the resolution.

The president said the impact of the cuts won't immediately be felt, but middle class families will begin to "have their lives disrupted in significant ways." He said that as long as the cuts stay in effect, Americans will know that the economy could have been better had they been averted.

"The pain, though, will be real," Obama said.
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"This is not a win for anybody. This is a loss for the American people," he said.

Obama, pressed on whether he bears some of the responsibility for the stalemate, expressed frustration. "Give me an example of what I might do," he challenged reporters.

"I am not a dictator. I'm the president," he said. He added that he can't do a "Jedi mind-meld" or use any "special sauce" to get Republicans to negotiate.

"I can't force Congress to do the right thing," Obama said.

He said he still believed the cuts could be replaced but he wanted a deal that includes more tax revenue by closing "wasteful" loopholes. He said it may take a couple of weeks or couple of months to find a fix for the impasse.

"Let's be clear: None of this is necessary," Obama said. "It's happening because of a choice that Republicans in Congress have made. We shouldn't be making a series of dumb, arbitrary cuts to things."

Obama met at the White House Friday morning with House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi.

Boehner's office said he and McConnell told Obama they're willing to close tax loopholes but only to lower taxes overall, not to replace spending cuts. Obama and congressional leaders have agreed that Congress should pass a bill funding the government beyond the end of March while they keep working on a way to replace the spending cuts, Boehner's office said.

"The president got his tax hikes on January 1st," Boehner said bluntly after the meeting with Obama. "The discussion about revenue in my view is over. It's about taking on the spending problem here in Washington."

On Thursday, two proposals aimed at blunting the blame over the cuts — one Democratic and the other Republican — were rejected in the Senate.

The meeting Friday was the first the two sides have had this year on the budget battle, and it lasted under an hour. Asked whether he couldn't get the parties in a room and stay there until they reach a deal, he noted that McConnell left the meeting early to catch a plane.

"I can't have Secret Service block the doorway," Obama said.

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Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politics/article/Obama-calls-spending-cuts-dumb-arbitrary-4319321.php#ixzz2MPC0qJsc
"He is going to be hard pressed to keep kicking the ball downfield and demanding more revenue when he has done nothing to solve the spending. "

Why do you guys keep repeating this oft-debunked claim? A simple google search will show how wrong you are.
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I think as far as Obama is concerned this is more about the 2014 midterms than anything else. If he can succeed in getting the public to blame the GOP, it will be a political coup. You can't play nice, nice when you dealing with the Koch's puppets. :teeth:
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Dumb and arbitrary pretty much sums up the whole government.
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colo_crawdad
Mar 2 2013, 02:03 AM
Yep, the spending cuts were dumb, arbitrary. No one, including the Republicans thought they would ever come to be. So, the Republicans agreed to them and now may end up paying the price for so doing.
Yep,,and all because Obama wants to renig on going after more taxes.
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tomdrobin
Mar 2 2013, 02:04 AM
I think as far as Obama is concerned this is more about the 2014 midterms than anything else. If he can succeed in getting the public to blame the GOP, it will be a political coup. You can't play nice, nice when you dealing with the Koch's puppets. :teeth:
In other words you are saying that Obama is only interested in driving the republicans in congress from office.

Now where did I hear that in a different case and the left went nuts for four years?
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Mar 2 2013, 02:10 AM
Dumb and arbitrary pretty much sums up the whole government.
The only problem with government as I see it is, too much enfluence by special interests and money. Anyone that can screw people with their pants on isn't dumb.
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Mar 2 2013, 02:18 AM
wanderingjays
Mar 2 2013, 02:10 AM
Dumb and arbitrary pretty much sums up the whole government.
The only problem with government as I see it is, too much enfluence by special interests and money. Anyone that can screw people with their pants on isn't dumb.
Although not related to this topic, you'll find no disagreement with me on that fact.
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Polls show about 60 % of americans blaming Congress. This could hit the reps hard in 2014.
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