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24 hours from doomsday; Is your food storage up to snuff?
Topic Started: Mar 1 2013, 03:24 AM (1,110 Views)
Banandangees
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How's the president's game going? What's new is that almost everyone does seem to understand he's playing games. He used to get more credit. His threats of coming mayhem and his lack of interest in easing it have dimmed his luster.

Certainly in the past few weeks he's become more aggressive and gameful. A crisis is coming—a series of crises actually, with more ceilings and the threat of a government shutdown—and he is not engaging or taking ownership. The "We're not speaking" thing with Congress is more amazing and historic than we appreciate. Only a president can stop that kind of thing, and he doesn't. He doesn't even seem to think he owes the speaker of the House—the highest elected official of a party representing roughly half the country—even the appearance of laying down his arms for a moment and holding serious talks. He journeys into America making speeches, he goes on TV but only for interviews the White House is confident will be soft.

He doesn't have time for Congress, but he has time to go on Al Sharpton's radio show and say Republicans care only about protecting the rich from taxes. Which is the kind of thing that embitters, that makes foes dig in more deeply.


He embodies "division," not unity; at a time when the nation really can't stand more division.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:20 AM
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How's the president's game going? What's new is that almost everyone does seem to understand he's playing games. He used to get more credit. His threats of coming mayhem and his lack of interest in easing it have dimmed his luster.

Certainly in the past few weeks he's become more aggressive and gameful. A crisis is coming—a series of crises actually, with more ceilings and the threat of a government shutdown—and he is not engaging or taking ownership. The "We're not speaking" thing with Congress is more amazing and historic than we appreciate. Only a president can stop that kind of thing, and he doesn't. He doesn't even seem to think he owes the speaker of the House—the highest elected official of a party representing roughly half the country—even the appearance of laying down his arms for a moment and holding serious talks. He journeys into America making speeches, he goes on TV but only for interviews the White House is confident will be soft.

He doesn't have time for Congress, but he has time to go on Al Sharpton's radio show and say Republicans care only about protecting the rich from taxes. Which is the kind of thing that embitters, that makes foes dig in more deeply.


He embodies "division," not unity; at a time when the nation really can't stand more division.
From whence did that quotation come?
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Don't pay so much attention to the source and think more to the content.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:34 AM
Don't pay so much attention to the source and think more to the content.
Are you res using to provide the source? Ws it just a right wing email? If not, then there are regulations of this forum to follow and giving credit is one of them.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:34 AM
Don't pay so much attention to the source and think more to the content.
the content will reflect the biased views of the source, so it's important to know where a quote comes from. It's pretty obvious that the quote in question is from a right wing source.
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But here's what seems really new. Past presidents, certainly since Ronald Reagan, went over the heads of the media to win over the people, to get them to contact Congress and push Congress to deal. Fine, and fair enough. But Mr. Obama goes to the people to get them to enhance his position by hating Republicans. He's playing only to the polls, not to Congress, not to get the other side to the bargaining table. He doesn't even like the bargaining table. He doesn't like bargaining.

Where does that get us? We are in new territory. There is a strange kind of nihilism in the president's approach, it's a closed, self-referential loop. And it's guaranteed to keep agreement from happening.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:37 AM
Banandangees
Mar 2 2013, 01:34 AM
Don't pay so much attention to the source and think more to the content.
the content will reflect the biased views of the source, so it's important to know where a quote comes from. It's pretty obvious that the quote in question is from a right wing source.
You decide. Argue the content.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:37 AM
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But here's what seems really new. Past presidents, certainly since Ronald Reagan, went over the heads of the media to win over the people, to get them to contact Congress and push Congress to deal. Fine, and fair enough. But Mr. Obama goes to the people to get them to enhance his position by hating Republicans. He's playing only to the polls, not to Congress, not to get the other side to the bargaining table. He doesn't even like the bargaining table. He doesn't like bargaining.

Where does that get us? We are in new territory. There is a strange kind of nihilism in the president's approach, it's a closed, self-referential loop. And it's guaranteed to keep agreement from happening.
Blame, blame, blame. Tell us what that accomplishes and why it might persuade the president to do anything differently than what he's doing.
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Mar 1 2013, 08:44 PM
Woodward has always been respectfully and tactfully bent to the left.... that's why he has had a solid position with the Washington Post for all these years. What he has learned now is that you just don't write, or suggest that you may write, anything that would paint a negative picture of the "new messiah" or his policies ..... not without consternation, intimidation and possible outcast status. Exposure of Obama transparency has it's limits.
Woodward has discovered what a lot of unscrupulous pundits and so called Journalist have found. There is a ready market to sell books and get airtime if you criticize Obama. It's all about the money. Don't think for a minute that Rupert Murdoch's Fox News is in the business of fairness, or leveling the playing field or that even Murdoch is a staunch conservative. It's about making the money. And, stoking the right wing fervor is a virtual gold mine. Just ask Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh who are raking in the millions. You have a ready audience eager to have their fears, paranoia and misconceptions stoked without question.

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Bob Woodward Comes Out of the Right Wing Closet by Praising Sean Hannity’s Journalism Skills

Bob Woodward outed himself as a right wing shill by going on Sean Hannity’s show and praising Hannity for “digging into things.” Those things are wild Obama conspiracy theories.

Hannity asked Woodward about the threat, “People have said this was a threat, or I was saying this was a threat. I haven’t used that language, but it’s not the way to operate in a White House. As you know, when somebody says you’re going to regret something, particularly somebody in a position of power like Gene Sperling. He’s not just a guy in the White House. He is the economic czar for the president. He did the same thing for Bill Clinton, had the same job. So when you say you’re going to regret challenging us, I just think that’s a mistake.”

Woodward continued to reiterate his inaccurate claim that the idea originated with the White House, and called it an, “irresponsible idea.” Woodward tried to back up his inaccuracies by claiming that he spent two months reporting on how they came to the sequester, but his defense of his book should come as insult to everyone who has spent two years covering this story on a regular basis.

Woodward claimed that he was standing up to Obama for all the young journalists out there. Woodward called Fox News a cornerstone of today’s media partisanship, and claimed that MSNBC supports Obama by believing that the president can do no wrong. Woodward then praised Hannity and his show. He said, “You let me say what I want. You dig into things. There is no bleep out button, and I believe in the First Amendment. So we have got to, my view, I suspect it’s not yours or Roger Ailes, we gotta bring this back to the center as much as possible.”

Hannity responded by trudging out the old, he is an opinion show excuse, “I would say this though in defense. I am like, The Washington Post has an opinion page. I’m the opinion page, and there is opinion programming, and there is objective news reporting. I’ll be honest. I’m very proud to work with some great reporters here at Fox that do dig in to issues like Fast and Furious. Our reporting on Benghazi, and I would even argue the fact that the president was never asked a lot about the$6 trillion in debt he accumulated prior to this election. In his first election, he wasn’t asked about his association with Bill Ayers.”

Bob Woodward praised Hannity for digging into things, and the things Sean Hannity listed as Fox’s serious journalism were right wing conspiracies. Apparently, Sean Hannity is Bob Woodward’s idea of what journalism should look like in the 21st Century.

Sean Hannity is regarded even among Republicans in power as a joke. Hannity isn’t a journalist. He is a right wing propagandist who uses his his nightly program to disseminate Republican talking points. The reason why any Republican who gets in hot water goes on Hannity is because they know they will be softballed. Sean Hannity makes Larry King look like Edward R. Murrow.



Bob Woodward has now completely revealed his partisan agenda. Out of respect for his former greatness, the mainstream media will still give him lots of airtime. The media will also ignore the fact that Bob Woodward has come up with a formula for selling his crappy books. Woodward knows that his books won’t sell without some kind of “investigative revelation,” so the Woodward formula is to generate lots of media attention with a controversial claim. He uses his credibility as former journalist to get booked on loads of television shows, and he plugs his sub par work so that it shoots to the top of the bestseller list for a few weeks before it is forgotten until his next book comes out.

David Corn, Jonathan Alter, and Robert Draper have all written great books about our current political environment in the last few years, but it seems Bob Woodward is looking to spend his golden years destroying his legacy by appealing to the right wing audience that will buy anything anti-Obama.

Bob Woodward praised Sean Hannity. This is how far he has fallen.


http://www.politicususa.com/bob-woodward-wing-closet-praising-sean-hannitys-journalism-skills.html

This isn't about Bob Woodward leaning left or right. It's about Bob Woodward doing what is necessary to live comfortably for the rest of his life. Maybe he even believes this crap himself. Or maybe he likes the attention as well as the money.
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Mar 2 2013, 01:34 AM
Don't pay so much attention to the source and think more to the content.
There isn't any. Just 3 paragraphs of anti-Obama screed.

You want to blame Obama for not talking to the Speaker of the House?

The same Speaker who sent the House home on a Thursday afternoon with the crisis looming?

The same Speaker who doesn't understand that it's HIS responsibility to set a budget?

The same Speaker who wants to blame the Sequester on Obama when the Republican majority voted for it?

C'mon Ban, you're smarter than that.
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