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Compulsory National Service; Something the right who supported the last military draft can get behind
Topic Started: Feb 26 2013, 09:27 AM (250 Views)
colo_crawdad
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HR 748: Require All Young Americans to Enlist in a National Service Program
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I might want to see more details, but I rather like the idea. I wouldn't mind seeing Canada do the same thing.
Edited by Brewster, Feb 26 2013, 09:46 AM.
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I like the idea, but I want a caveat in the law that no draftee can be used off of U.S. soil with out an act of Congress! I would accept the North American Continent and U. S. soil to allow us to Help Canada and Mexico if needed.


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Feb 26 2013, 09:49 AM
I like the idea, but I want a caveat in the law that no draftee can be used off of U.S. soil with out an act of Congress! I would accept the North American Continent and U. S. soil to allow us to Help Canada and Mexico if needed.


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And I would place a quota on how many would be for defense purposes. Additionally, no deferrments. If you are mentally and physically sound' then you serve.
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NO deferments, period!!!! They can find some use foryou

! Read Starship Trooper.


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Edited by Corky52, Feb 26 2013, 12:33 PM.
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The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued. Perhaps a 3 month military training for the disipline that our youth need (get them away from their cell phones and video games), give them the basics of military procedures; and, 3 months of federal, state or local service in some useful capacity that contrubutes to education or infrastructure. No exemptions except for documented health problems.
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Feb 26 2013, 06:22 PM
The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued. Perhaps a 3 month military training for the disipline that our youth need (get them away from their cell phones and video games), give them the basics of military procedures; and, 3 months of federal, state or local service in some useful capacity that contrubutes to education or infrastructure. No exemptions except for documented health problems.
"The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued"

I wonder if we aren't spending more on the volunteer military than we did when we had a draft. After three years in the Navy, I was making $94/mo. I just rented one of our houses in Georgia to a Marine whose pay is a little over $5200/mo.
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Feb 26 2013, 09:16 PM
Banandangees
Feb 26 2013, 06:22 PM
The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued. Perhaps a 3 month military training for the disipline that our youth need (get them away from their cell phones and video games), give them the basics of military procedures; and, 3 months of federal, state or local service in some useful capacity that contrubutes to education or infrastructure. No exemptions except for documented health problems.
"The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued"

I wonder if we aren't spending more on the volunteer military than we did when we had a draft. After three years in the Navy, I was making $94/mo. I just rented one of our houses in Georgia to a Marine whose pay is a little over $5200/mo.
I suppose the military has to offer more now to get volunteer enlistees and keep them. I'm thinking you were in the navy in the early to mid 1950s. Your room and board were paid for. After three years service you were a relative peeon.

When I was in the Army (a peeon) in 1955, the captain of our company's pay was $500/month. He lived off post, had a family, his living expenses were factored in for rent, food, utilities, etc. That would be about $56,500 in today's dollars plus benefits (medical, retirement).
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Feb 26 2013, 10:40 PM
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Feb 26 2013, 09:16 PM
Banandangees
Feb 26 2013, 06:22 PM
The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued. Perhaps a 3 month military training for the disipline that our youth need (get them away from their cell phones and video games), give them the basics of military procedures; and, 3 months of federal, state or local service in some useful capacity that contrubutes to education or infrastructure. No exemptions except for documented health problems.
"The program would be costly to the tax payer, which is one reason the draft was discontinued"

I wonder if we aren't spending more on the volunteer military than we did when we had a draft. After three years in the Navy, I was making $94/mo. I just rented one of our houses in Georgia to a Marine whose pay is a little over $5200/mo.
I suppose the military has to offer more now to get volunteer enlistees and keep them. I'm thinking you were in the navy in the early to mid 1950s. Your room and board were paid for. After three years service you were a relative peeon.

When I was in the Army (a peeon) in 1955, the captain of our company's pay was $500/month. He lived off post, had a family, his living expenses were factored in for rent, food, utilities, etc. That would be about $56,500 in today's dollars plus benefits (medical, retirement).
I was in the Navy from 1959-1962 active duty. Three more years of reserves. Navy personnel who were married and lived off base received about $150/mo for rent subsidy. Do current members of the military not still receive housing, food, medical care and clothing allowances?
Most members of the current military are also peons. I seriously doubt that they make anywhere near the pay we received in the 50's and 60's. Even adjusted fro inflation.
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Here is a link to the military pay for 2012. It appears to me the all volunteer army gets paid very well compared to when I was in 50 years ago.

http://usmilitarypaychart.com/2013-military-pay-chart/

This inflation calculator shows the approx. $120 a month I made in 1960 is $933 a month in todays dollars. The current pay scale is about double that.

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=120&year1=1960&year2=2013
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