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| President Obama faces 'cliff fatigue'; You can only cry wolf so many times before being ignored | |
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| colo_crawdad | Feb 26 2013, 09:31 AM Post #11 |
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Dammit Brew, What are you doing arguing by using supporting facts again? |
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| Brewster | Feb 26 2013, 09:43 AM Post #12 |
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I'm sorry, Colo. It's a bad habit I just cannot break. |
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| Banandangees | Feb 26 2013, 09:53 AM Post #13 |
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I don't think the "quote" that I posted had anything much to do with "lowering taxes." I has more to do with the value of the dollar which has been affected by "borrowing," printing, spending; and, in that sense ALL people are losing out.... except for the ones that MR mentioned... the entitlement folks, and who will be affected more (the middle class) by the "sequestration" thingy as, according to MR, sequestration will affect "mandatory spending" more so than "entitlement spending." |
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| Brewster | Feb 26 2013, 09:59 AM Post #14 |
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I agree. Time to stop the borrowing. Cut subsidies, spend money on infrastucture where you will get the money back in future development, taxes, etc. |
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| Banandangees | Feb 26 2013, 10:19 AM Post #15 |
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Stop the borrowing, the printing, cut the spending; have the president sit down in sessions with both parties to work to improve our fiscal problems. President Obama can't do that by traveling the country campaigning his ideas in a way that further divides the country into social categories just to fulfill his agenda (what ever that is). The leader has to sit down with the representatives and negotiate. Another approach for the Republicans is to give in to Obama ... to his aggressive fiscal programs ... but do so by crying out for a very brief period, "objection," at which time the President will cry back, "over ruled;" and the Republicans will follow with "exception" and the public will hopefully cry out, "so noted." Then in four years, we can say that the president was right and elect another liberal for president; or, we can say that the president was wrong... then get on with repairing the damage..... if it is repairable. |
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| Brewster | Feb 26 2013, 10:31 AM Post #16 |
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I agree. Now tell the Teapublicans to quit playing the blame game and sit down with Obama. Until then, the best strategy O has is to keep campaigning, trying to apply public pressure on Boehner and Co. to negotiate in good faith, which they haven't done since Boehner took over the speakership. Boehner is supposed to be in charge of the division of government responsible for budget, and all Boehner does is make public pronouncements like he did today, claiming Reid or Obama or anybody but him should supply the bill, which is basically insane. Anybody following what the Teapublicans are trying to do knows they're trying to get some Democrat to suggest cuts to something important, so they can blame them. Boehner is ducking out on his responsibilities. Tell him to sit down with Obama and negotiate in good faith. Edited by Brewster, Feb 26 2013, 10:31 AM.
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| Pat | Feb 26 2013, 10:40 AM Post #17 |
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Something to consider, the total cuts for this year amount a a whopping $85 bil. I think the Hurricane Sandy bailout of states was near that amount. We cannot keep increasing spending, it's got to come to a halt, look at the debt level. If our government policies were to grow exports and improve the economy, then revenue increases. Rather than spend more how about reforming some policies to get the economy and tax base expanding? |
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| Pat | Feb 26 2013, 10:41 AM Post #18 |
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Colo, the article was posted at Huff Post. |
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| Brewster | Feb 26 2013, 10:43 AM Post #19 |
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And if the policies that need reforming require spending more money, such as education, R&D, and infrastructure? |
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| Banandangees | Feb 26 2013, 05:42 PM Post #20 |
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How anybody can say that it's the other side playing the blame game is beyond reality. What planet are you living on? That's been Obama's campaign strategy before the election and since. Everything is the Republicans fault. Do you not listen to his words? It's what he's done since he's been president and his followers chime in almost verbatim.... like robotic pons. He has divided this country almost beyond repair. The chasm has never been so wide or so deep. What has Obama offered in the way of a budget of his own since he's been in office.... and his four yearly deficits have shown that ... his budget agenda is the old tax and spend. People have less left in their pay checks, paying more for staples, unemployment is high, our position in the world is declining, no body seems to know what his foreign strategy really is..... but he's "cool." Edited by Banandangees, Feb 26 2013, 06:14 PM.
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