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Foreign Affairs debate; it still comes back to jobs and the economy
Topic Started: Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM (1,346 Views)
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Pat
Oct 24 2012, 12:53 AM
jcapps
Oct 24 2012, 12:30 AM
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Oct 24 2012, 12:23 AM
You are questioning the wrong guy Joe, Romney is the guy with the plan. He has been running on it and offering hope to those Obama policies have left on the sidelines in misery. The guy you should be questioning is Barrack Obama, where the hell is his plan? And I'm not talking about the same BS he is floating, we already seen that in action and it did not work.
Gullible comes to mind!

So Romney claims he can create 12 million jobs, has no plan that he has disclosed and people are dumb enough to believe that? Hell why not claim he can create 23 million?

BTW Pat Government does not create jobs, thats what you righties have been claiming the last 4 years
Again Joe, why question me, I'm parroting what I have read and heard. The one thing we have in common and know for certain, is the guy currently leading us, failed to get the job done. And we have been reminded of those failures as well, 46,000,000 on food stamps, 23,000,000 out of work, millions more who dropped out of the job market. $5 trillion more in debt. A guy incapable of pulling all side together to solve problems. I guess we might get a shot at seeing what the new kid brings to the fold. I doubt it could be any worse.
We do not have that in common Pat. I do not think he failed. I think he has done well considering the roadbloacks put in place by you republicans

I thought you were more intelligent than just, your word, parroting what he tells you.

Sad state of affairs that reasonably intelligent folks like you have turned into parrots, proclaiming something they know is a complete lie, as truth
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Oct 24 2012, 03:24 AM
Berton
Oct 24 2012, 03:03 AM
You still seem to be ignoring the rest of his plan. Why is that?
Perhaps you can list all of the 5 points and detail how each one of them is going work?

Good luck. :teeth:

I doubt you know much about any of them, other than what you can paste from some right wing blog or website. Ignorance fueled by bias is a pitiful thing. :tongue:
I posted all 5 points, and showed exactly why NONE of them would work.

I gather Bertie's reading comprehension slipped again at that point. It seems to fail him whenever the facts get in the way of his Ideology.
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Oct 24 2012, 03:27 AM
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There is the overview. Do you want to start with the first one?

Or is that too complicated for you?





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Berton, goombah and moolah never let facts get in their way
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There is the overview. Do you want to start with the first one?

Or is that too complicated for you?





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Let's pretend the Romney plan exists and would actually work, putting millions of Americans back into good paying jobs, cutting the deficit and reducing the debt and whatever else has been promised.

Does Romney have any moral or civic obligation as an American to produce the plan NOW and put it to work today rather than waiting until after he possibly wins next month and is sworn in in January?

If the plan works, should he be held responsible for the additional months the nation and millions of Americans suffered while the plan was withheld for purely political reasons?

Suppose he loses the election and never publishes the plan. Is he guilty of treason?


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LOL What a weird question.
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Mitt Romney will make America an energy superpower, rapidly and responsibly increasing our own production and partnering with our allies Canada and Mexico to achieve energy independence on this continent by 2020. This will require genuine support for increased energy production, a more rational approach to regulation, and a government that facilitates private-sector-led development of new energy technologies by focusing on funding research and removing barriers, rather than chasing fads and picking winners and losers.

•Empower states to control onshore energy development
◦States will be empowered to control all forms of energy production on all lands within their borders, excluding only those that are specifically designated off-limits. Federal agencies will certify, but the states will lead.

•Open offshore areas for energy development
◦Mitt will establish the most robust five-year offshore lease plan in history, that opens new areas for resource development – including off the coasts of Virginia and the Carolinas – and sets minimum production targets to increase accountability.

•Pursue a North American Energy Partnership
◦Mitt will approve the Keystone XL pipeline, establish a new regional agreement to facilitate cross-border energy investment, promote and expand regulatory cooperation with Canada and Mexico and institute fast-track regulatory approval processes for cross-border pipelines and other infrastructure.

•Ensure accurate assessment of energy resources
◦Instead of relying on decades-old surveys developed with decades-old technologies, Mitt’s plan facilitates new energy assessments to determine the true extent of our resource endowment.

•Restore transparency and fairness to permitting and regulation
◦Mitt will pursue measured reforms of our environmental laws and regulations to strengthen environmental protection without destroying jobs or paralyzing industries. Mitt’s plan will also streamline the gauntlet of reviews, processes, administrative procedures, and lawsuits that mire so many new projects in red tape.

•Facilitate private-sector-led development of new energy technologies
◦Mitt will promote innovation by focusing the federal government on the job it does best – research and development – and will eliminate any barriers that might prevent new energy technologies from succeeding on their own merits. Strengthening and streamlining regulations and permitting processes will benefit the development of both traditional and alternative energy sources, and encourage the use of a diverse range of fuels including natural gas in transportation.


MITT’S PLAN HAS WIDE-RANGING BENEFITS FOR AMERICA.

•More than three million new jobs, including over one million in manufacturing;
•An economic resurgence adding more than $500 billion to GDP;
•A stronger dollar and a reduced trade deficit;
•More than $1 trillion in revenue for federal, state, and local governments;
•Lower energy prices for job creators and middle-class families; and
•National security strengthened by freedom from dependence on foreign energy supplies.

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On another forum today, I read what some referred to as "fact Checks" claiming that Obama had lolled and Romney had told the truth. The first concerned the President's actions about Chinese tires. What the "Fact Check" actually proved is that President Obama had said truthfully what he had done. There was an indication that some opinions of others thought the President's approach was wring, but that President had done precisely what he said he had done.

The second concerned the relative size of the Navy today and in 1717. The problem with the "fact check" is that it dealt only with numbers of ships and ignored both the Navy Air Force and the Marine
Air force, neither of which existed in 1917. So Romney was wrong again due to leaving out significant numbers and strengths.
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Oct 24 2012, 08:59 AM
On another forum today, I read what some referred to as "fact Checks" claiming that Obama had lolled and Romney had told the truth. The first concerned the President's actions about Chinese tires. What the "Fact Check" actually proved is that President Obama had said truthfully what he had done. There was an indication that some opinions of others thought the President's approach was wring, but that President had done precisely what he said he had done.

The second concerned the relative size of the Navy today and in 1717. The problem with the "fact check" is that it dealt only with numbers of ships and ignored both the Navy Air Force and the Marine
Air force, neither of which existed in 1917. So Romney was wrong again due to leaving out significant numbers and strengths.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/Fire_And_Ice/topic/4973541/1/#new


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