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Foreign Affairs debate; it still comes back to jobs and the economy
Topic Started: Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM (1,348 Views)
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Oct 23 2012, 10:05 PM
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Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM
When the two men discussed the middle east, they both seemed in agreement on how to proceed. The turning point came when Romney brought up the fact that America was weaker today because our economy was weaker. That America has less influence in the world because we are a much weaker nation, have regressed with four years of Obama rule. Therein lies the hurdle that Obama must overcome.

Would you say America is weaker today than it was back in, oh, 1937 or 1938?
Mitt to put it bluntly is full of schitt!
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Attacks again from the left. lol
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Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM
When the two men discussed the middle east, they both seemed in agreement on how to proceed. The turning point came when Romney brought up the fact that America was weaker today because our economy was weaker. That America has less influence in the world because we are a much weaker nation, have regressed with four years of Obama rule. Therein lies the hurdle that Obama must overcome.

This debate happened with many Americans having already cast their votes. Early voting is underway and has been for a few days.. I doubt anything said tonight is a game changer, America knows the president's record and now know Romney's record as governor and business leader.
Romney better hope that America has forgotten who started it down the road to being a much weaker nation economically, and his record "as governor and business leader", unless he can show why following someone whose jobs record was 47th out of the 50 states and who offshored jobs wholesale would be good for the country.
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Tom, you hit on some good points but left out the key. If Mitt's five point program works, revenue will be streaming into the treasury like a river rather than a stream that was dammed up by the stagnation inherent with current anti business policies. I'm really surprised that you guys ignore the entire premise behind growing an economy. Or maybe I shouldn't be.

We have 23,000,000 people on the sideline and not earning a good living. Good livings as Romney has promised with 12,000,000 new jobs, mean 12,000,000 more people contributing to treasury and hundreds of thousands of new businesses doing the same.

Now you might call BS on Romney and his plan, but until we see it in action, there is no proof he isn't on to something. We already know what the current guy is capable of, if you want to laugh at someone or throw darts, why not target him?
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Oct 24 2012, 12:09 AM
Tom, you hit on some good points but left out the key. If Mitt's five point program works, revenue will be streaming into the treasury like a river rather than a stream that was dammed up by the stagnation inherent with current anti business policies. I'm really surprised that you guys ignore the entire premise behind growing an economy. Or maybe I shouldn't be.

We have 23,000,000 people on the sideline and not earning a good living. Good livings as Romney has promised with 12,000,000 new jobs, mean 12,000,000 more people contributing to treasury and hundreds of thousands of new businesses doing the same.

Now you might call BS on Romney and his plan, but until we see it in action, there is no proof he isn't on to something. We already know what the current guy is capable of, if you want to laugh at someone or throw darts, why not target him?
Pat we have been down this road before. Once I questioned you, you could only come up with 1 million jobs. And those were all sketchy.

You could not come up with the other 11 million

and what about the rest of the 23 million Pat?

and what do YOU consider good paying jobs Pat? The ones you claimed he created at Staples or the Sports Authority? The 8 to 15 an hr jobs, part time with no benefits?
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You are questioning the wrong guy Joe, Romney is the guy with the plan. He has been running on it and offering hope to those Obama policies have left on the sidelines in misery. The guy you should be questioning is Barrack Obama, where the hell is his plan? And I'm not talking about the same BS he is floating, we already seen that in action and it did not work.
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Oct 24 2012, 12:23 AM
You are questioning the wrong guy Joe, Romney is the guy with the plan. He has been running on it and offering hope to those Obama policies have left on the sidelines in misery. The guy you should be questioning is Barrack Obama, where the hell is his plan? And I'm not talking about the same BS he is floating, we already seen that in action and it did not work.
Gullible comes to mind!

So Romney claims he can create 12 million jobs, has no plan that he has disclosed and people are dumb enough to believe that? Hell why not claim he can create 23 million?

BTW Pat Government does not create jobs, thats what you righties have been claiming the last 4 years
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Oct 24 2012, 12:23 AM
You are questioning the wrong guy Joe, Romney is the guy with the plan. He has been running on it and offering hope to those Obama policies have left on the sidelines in misery. The guy you should be questioning is Barrack Obama, where the hell is his plan? And I'm not talking about the same BS he is floating, we already seen that in action and it did not work.
You are aware, Pat, that there is not an economist outside of the Right Wing Blogosphere that thinks Romney's plan makes any sense?

Offering false hope to a people in desperate need is a criminal offence, in my opinion.

And do you realize that most economists think that Obama's American Jobs Act would have been great for the economy, if only it could have got past the Republican-led House?

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Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM
When the two men discussed the middle east, they both seemed in agreement on how to proceed. The turning point came when Romney brought up the fact that America was weaker today because our economy was weaker. That America has less influence in the world because we are a much weaker nation, have regressed with four years of Obama rule. Therein lies the hurdle that Obama must overcome.

Would you say America is weaker today than it was back in, oh, 1937 or 1938?
Mitt to put it bluntly is full of schitt!
The unanswered question is : weaker than who? Who represents the same threat to America, as a nation, Japan or Germany did in the late 1930s. Or the USSR appeared to in the late 50s and early 60s? China? The Middle East?

Weakness is not an absolute value, but a comparison between nations. Pat writes, "we are a much weaker nation..." Than who, Pat? What nation would consider attacking the US because of this imaginary weakness?
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Oct 24 2012, 12:23 AM
You are questioning the wrong guy Joe, Romney is the guy with the plan. He has been running on it and offering hope to those Obama policies have left on the sidelines in misery. The guy you should be questioning is Barrack Obama, where the hell is his plan? And I'm not talking about the same BS he is floating, we already seen that in action and it did not work.
Gullible comes to mind!

So Romney claims he can create 12 million jobs, has no plan that he has disclosed and people are dumb enough to believe that? Hell why not claim he can create 23 million?

BTW Pat Government does not create jobs, thats what you righties have been claiming the last 4 years
Again Joe, why question me, I'm parroting what I have read and heard. The one thing we have in common and know for certain, is the guy currently leading us, failed to get the job done. And we have been reminded of those failures as well, 46,000,000 on food stamps, 23,000,000 out of work, millions more who dropped out of the job market. $5 trillion more in debt. A guy incapable of pulling all side together to solve problems. I guess we might get a shot at seeing what the new kid brings to the fold. I doubt it could be any worse.
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