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From the horse's mouth; Different from what Biden said
Topic Started: Oct 17 2012, 06:43 PM (205 Views)
Banandangees
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From the New York Times

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WASHINGTON — Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats.

That conclusion, of which President Obama and other senior officials are aware from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives, casts into doubt whether the White House’s strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States.

“The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” said one American official familiar with the outlines of those findings, commenting on an operation that in American eyes has increasingly gone awry.

The United States is not sending arms directly to the Syrian opposition. Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.


Is this another "Fast and Furious" blunder? Just askin.

Edited by Banandangees, Oct 17 2012, 06:43 PM.
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I don't see a link. I was going to read the article in it's entirety. I recall Biden saying we were using caution to make sure if we did provide arms it was to fighters friendly to us. He said nothing about what other countries were doing. Isn't it kind of stretching it to try and connect weapons furnished by other countries in the region to our policy?
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Isn't it kind of stretching it to try and connect weapons furnished by other countries in the region to our policy?

Not if your only concern is to make Obama look bad.
Edited by Brewster, Oct 18 2012, 12:23 AM.
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LOL. Obie does a good job on his own of looking bad.
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Both VP candidates are not always in step. Ryan even more so, he contradicted what Romney has said on issues a few times, esp abortion. Mind you he is probably having trouble keeping up with all the flip flops. He should spend more time paying attention to his running mates ever changing positions instead of washing already clean dishes in homeless shelters. Ordid Romney do a mind change there as well, from clean to dirty dishes.
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Why don't you get informed if you're going to spend most of your life commenting on America?
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Oct 17 2012, 11:42 PM
Ban
I don't see a link. I was going to read the article in it's entirety. I recall Biden saying we were using caution to make sure if we did provide arms it was to fighters friendly to us. He said nothing about what other countries were doing. Isn't it kind of stretching it to try and connect weapons furnished by other countries in the region to our policy?

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Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.



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Oct 17 2012, 11:42 PM
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I don't see a link. I was going to read the article in it's entirety. I recall Biden saying we were using caution to make sure if we did provide arms it was to fighters friendly to us. He said nothing about what other countries were doing. Isn't it kind of stretching it to try and connect weapons furnished by other countries in the region to our policy?

Sorry about that:

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I'm not trying to stretch anything, but as with Holder's "Fast and Furious," if we are going to get involved with other's internal problems and issue weapons, we need to be sure they are going to people who are going to not eventually use them against the cause we are hoping for.... or against any of our citizens.
Edited by Banandangees, Oct 18 2012, 01:37 AM.
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