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Interesting global warming polling numbers; Pew poll
Topic Started: Oct 17 2012, 05:58 AM (853 Views)
Pat
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Obama has tried shutting down fracking , delayed drilling in the Gulf, and cut back on leases on federal land.Environmentalists love him.
Edited by Pat, Oct 18 2012, 05:17 AM.
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If that's what he's been trying to to Pat, he's been an even bigger failure than you make him out to be. He hasn't done any of those things.

Overall, drilling's at its highest level in nearly a decade, and fracking is ruining several states.

You've been listening to that Right Wing propaganda again.
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ON PRIVATE LAND
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Berton
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Oct 18 2012, 05:21 AM
If that's what he's been trying to to Pat, he's been an even bigger failure than you make him out to be. He hasn't done any of those things.

Overall, drilling's at its highest level in nearly a decade, and fracking is ruining several states.

You've been listening to that Right Wing propaganda again.
Wrong again: LINK
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Pat, in case you missed it, here's the fact check on oil production:
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On federal and Indian lands, as well as federally approved offshore drilling sites, oil production went up from 1.6 million barrels per day to 2 million barrels per day between fiscal years 2008 and 2010. But it dropped to 1.8 million barrels per day for the last fiscal year available, a decrease that the U.S. Energy Information Administration attributes to the impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Despite the one-year drop in production, oil production on federal and Indian lands from 2009 through 2011 totaled 2.027 million barrels. That's an average of 675,000 barrels per year during Obama's term, compared to an average annual production of 609,000 barrels annually during Bush's last term.

The Institute for Energy Research, a nonprofit research and advocacy group that has been critical of Obama, asserted in a September 26 report that the rate of oil and gas leasing (or licenses, as Romney stated) "has slowed by about half."

During the last three fiscal years totally under Bush, there were 9,661 "new leases" granted for federal lands. For the three most recent fiscal years (which includes a few months of Bush's administration), there were 5,568 such new leases. This works out to a 42.4% decrease.

Take the same comparable periods for drilling permits on federal lands. There were 20,479 for the last three years under Bush, then 12,821 for the most recent three including much of Obama's first term. This is a 37.4% decrease.

Conclusion:

Romney's claim that Obama's administration has "cut the number of permits and licenses in half" for federal lands is not on the mark.

True, there has been a significant drop -- one tied, in part, to the unprecedented Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Yet the actual numbers of permits and licenses haven't been "cut ... in half." As mentioned above (and including data from part of the Bush administration), there has been a 42% decrease in leases and 37% decrease in drilling permits -- not 50%, as Romney implied.

Even the Institute for Energy Research acknowledged that "this decrease isn't a result of President Obama's policies exclusively, but it is the result of decades and policies that have systematically reduced energy production on federal lands."
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The Right Wing will say anything to discredit Obama, Facts be D*mned.
Edited by Brewster, Oct 18 2012, 06:03 AM.
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Your sure do like to cherry pick your information don't you?

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Meanwhile, natural gas production on federal and Indian lands has steadily fallen, a trend that began around fall 2002. This is due to a consistent decrease in offshore gas drilling, though such gas production onshore, on federal lands, is actually higher now than it was at the end of the Bush administration.

Overall, the percentage of U.S.-produced natural gas from federal lands -- relative to that produced from private ones -- fell significantly over the past eight years, from 35% to 21%, reported Sieminski.


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So Noclue lies again, what is new? That's all he and Obie have.
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