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| Topic Started: Jul 4 2012, 09:38 PM (475 Views) | |
| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 02:50 AM Post #11 |
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No politics, Chris, except in your head. Pure science. I have shown the science repeatedly. It's solid as a rock. If you want it again, at a laymen's level, look up Skeptical Science. If you want it at a scientist's level, read Real Climate. If you want to know how Climate Science interacts with the real world, read Climate Progress. None of those sites have ever been successfully challenged. There are dozens more, just as authoritative. |
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| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 02:55 AM Post #12 |
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Berton, that's how much sea level is rising at the moment. It will rise much faster as time goes on. Show real proof that CO2 is dropping. I have never seen a trace of evidence of that. Just because EXCESS PRODUCTION is dropping IN THE US ALONE hardly changes the overall picture. More Denier nonsense. |
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| Neutral | Jul 5 2012, 02:56 AM Post #13 |
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  Hooray for North Carolina!!!
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| Chris | Jul 5 2012, 03:16 AM Post #14 |
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The OP is about politics, brew. You have never discussed the science. You make vague gestures pointing to blogs. Yes, I understand your opinions and those blogs have never been challenged. Science is not authoritative. It is not driven by consensus. |
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| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 03:28 AM Post #15 |
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A Straw Man. Who ever claimed science was driven by concensus? Concensus is what you get when all the experiments, tests, logic, etc all point to the same answer. Then it's time to move on to ever greater detail. And please tell me what's vague about pointing to specific blogs, written by experts and referencing other experts? You asked a general question: "Where's the science?" And I gave you specific directions to that science. Do you honestly expect me to regurgitate over 100 years of Climate Science on Mike's Forum? Especially when I am 100% certain that you wouldn't read any of it other than to find word games to play? Edited by Brewster, Jul 5 2012, 03:36 AM.
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| Chris | Jul 5 2012, 03:38 AM Post #16 |
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"Who ever claimed science was driven by concensus?" You did and claim it every time you try to argue about scientific topics. "And please tell me what's vague about pointing to specific blogs, written by experts and referencing other experts?" Your posts are. See that's the problem, you yourself never talk science, you talk about it, and mostly based on a lot of incorrect assumptions about authority and consensus, which really amounts to no more than arguing politics. It's not science. "You asked a general question: "Where's the science?"" The question is about where's the science in what you post. There is none. "Do you honestly expect me to regurgitate over 100 years of Climate Science on Mike's Forum?" No one's asking you to do that. You're being asked to defend your opinions with science not consensus and authority. I remember when you did try to talk science, your theory was an overly simplistic and many times easily refuted, man causes CO2, CO2 causes temps to rise. You dropped that. Edited by Chris, Jul 5 2012, 03:41 AM.
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| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 03:42 AM Post #17 |
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So every time a Denier posts the same ol' BS, I'm supposed to repeat everything I said the last time the subject came up? |
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| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 04:01 AM Post #18 |
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Go take a look at the original OP - it's a piece on N Carolina voting to ignore an aspect of Climate Science - What Science do you think I should repost? That the oceans are really going to rise? How many pieces do you need? They come out virtually every day... Here's a good one Here's Another And Another One from the Government A graph of the rise:  The associated Wiki Article The EPA Projections The IPCC Projections from Skeptical Science, that I gave you Before From National Geographic There you go... Now I want you to Debunk each of those individually, not with some blanket Denier Nonsense, then I'll send you an even bigger batch.. Where'e YOUR science, Chris? Edited by Brewster, Jul 5 2012, 04:02 AM.
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| Berton | Jul 5 2012, 04:03 AM Post #19 |
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If the production of CO2 keeps dropping the perceived problem about oceans rising is solved. If the problem is CO2 and the production of CO2 is going down, indeed is getting back to 1990 production, then it does change the overall picture. You have been saying all along that CO2 production must go down. Now that it is you are either in denial or are complaining about what you wanted to happen. You have also said that the US is the major producer of CO2 so when ours goes down it is a really BIG thing. As NG is used more in other countries CO2 will continue to go down at a even faster rate. More Alarmist nonsense. |
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| Brewster | Jul 5 2012, 04:05 AM Post #20 |
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The US is A major producer of CO2, not THE biggest. And all you've done is slow it down a bit. A long way from stopping it. As for the rest of the world following suit, wishful thinking. I see no evidence of it. Edited by Brewster, Jul 5 2012, 04:07 AM.
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