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Obama calls a Nazi facility used to process Jews for execution as a "Polish death camp."
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Topic Started: May 30 2012, 08:15 PM (433 Views)
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Jim Miller
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May 30 2012, 08:15 PM
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Poor guy. His teleprompters must not have been working.
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Obama 'misspoke' over Nazi death camp says WHouse
The White House tried to head off a diplomatic spat with Poland after President Barack Obama mistakenly called a Nazi facility used to process Jews for execution as a "Polish death camp."
The linguistic faux pas overshadowed Obama's posthumous award of America's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, to Jan Karski, a former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of the Nazi purge against Jews.
"Before one trip across enemy lines, resistance fighters told him that Jews were being murdered on a massive scale, and smuggled him into the Warsaw Ghetto and a Polish death camp to see for himself," Obama said.
The Polish government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former concentration camps as "Polish" because it says the term -- even if used simply as a geographical indicator -- can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany's World War II genocide.
Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for Obama's National Security Council, said that the president "misspoke."
"He was referring to Nazi death camps in Poland.
"We regret this misstatement, which should not detract from the clear intention to honor Mr Karski and those brave citizens who stood on the side of human dignity in the face of tyranny."
A US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, recalled that Obama visited the Warsaw Ghetto Memorial during his visit to Poland last year and had repeatedly paid tribute to the bravery of Poles during World War II.
On several other occasions, Obama has also paid tribute to Poles who perished in Nazi camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, near the Polish city of Krakow, and said the victims must never be forgotten.
In his remarks on Tuesday, Obama noted that Karski had taken his testimony about the horror of Nazi death camps and the Warsaw ghetto to wartime US president Franklin Roosevelt.
As a young man, Karski, who was a clandestine officer of the Polish government-in-exile in London, witnessed scenes of starvation and death after infiltrating the Warsaw Ghetto.
Dressed as a Ukrainian guard, he also went to a Nazi transit camp near Warsaw where he saw Jews beaten and stabbed and loaded onto train cars treated with quicklime for transit to the gas chambers.
Karski, who died in Washington aged 86 in 2000, later became a professor of history at Georgetown University.
The majority of the six million Jews who perished during the Holocaust were murdered in death camps set up and entirely controlled by Germany in occupied Poland.
A million of them died at Auschwitz-Birkenau, which has become the era's most enduring symbol.
Poland was home to Europe's largest pre-war Jewish population, some 3.5 million people. Polish Jews represented around half the Nazis' victims.
Around three million non-Jewish Poles were also killed over the six years that followed the Nazis' 1939 invasion, many of them in death camps. LINK
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May 30 2012, 08:18 PM
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PC speech may rule yet another time.
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Jim Miller
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May 30 2012, 08:33 PM
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Polish Premier Demands U.S. Response to Obama Death Camp Remark By Piotr Skolimowski - May 30, 2012 7:00 AM ET
Poland demanded a “strong and clear response” from the U.S. after President Barack Obama’s mention of a “Polish death camp” while honoring a Pole who told the world about the Holocaust.
“We can’t accept such words in Poland, even if they are spoken by a leader of an allied country,” Prime Minister Donald Tusk told journalists in Warsaw today. “Saying Polish concentration camps is as if there was no German responsibility, no Hitler.”
Since, 2004 Poland has sought clarifications from several news outlets for the use of a phrase “Polish concentration camps” that were run by the Nazis during the country’s occupation in the World War II, according to the Foreign Ministry’s website. The government has convinced publications including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times and the San Francisco Chronicle to stop using the phrase.
The U.S. administration regrets “this misstatement,” the Wall Street Journal’s website cited Tommy Vietor, the National Security Council spokesman, as saying. The text of Obama’s remarks on the White House website hasn’t been corrected as of today.
“The White House will apologize for this outrageous mistake,” Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski wrote on his Twitter Inc. account. “It’s a shame that such a momentous ceremony has been overshadowed by ignorance and incompetence.” (Amen, brother!)
Obama posthumously awarded Jan Karski the Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor, at a ceremony in Washington yesterday, saying the Polish officer “illuminated one of the darkest chapters of history” as he “repeatedly crossed enemy line to document the face of genocide, and courageously voiced tragic truths all the way to President Roosevelt.” LINK
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May 30 2012, 10:51 PM
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A large % of the Poles supported the death camps and that is one of the reasons that the Germans built the main killing camp in Poland. There is a long history of pogoms by the Poles against the Jews.
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May 30 2012, 11:34 PM
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That is not justification for Obama's screw up. If Bush had said it, we would hear it for a week in the press. Same with 57 states and "corpseman"
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May 30 2012, 11:41 PM
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Much do do about nothing.
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May 30 2012, 11:47 PM
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Much do do about nothing. Yeah, the far right first criticize anyone for being Politically Correct with their language and then criticize OUR President for not being Politically Correct with his language. What's the word that best describes the far right? Hypocritical? Yeah, that's it.
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Pat
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May 30 2012, 11:53 PM
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He was probably using the word to describe the country not the actions of any citizens. And ken mad a good point, Polish non Jews had a cultural war going on with the Jews for centuries. The Jews were blamed continent wide for everything from still births to blizzards and storms.
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Jim Miller
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May 31 2012, 12:15 AM
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I wonder if he was high on pot.
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May 31 2012, 12:40 AM
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Kerfuffle though it may seem to some, Poles outraged over Obama's words on death camps.
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