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'Stupid' and Oil Prices
Topic Started: Feb 25 2012, 12:38 AM (1,533 Views)
Jim Miller
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Jim Miller
Feb 25 2012, 09:23 AM
Obama nor Bush are any of your business, Brew. Stay out of our business.
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Better be careful Jim, you are probably burning gas from Brews home province in your car.
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Chris
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Stop inflating the value of money and the cost of gas would be less.
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Mountainrivers
Feb 25 2012, 10:20 PM
Stoney
Feb 25 2012, 09:18 PM
I agree that cutting prices in half is a bit optimistic. But if we consume 20% of the oil let's produce 20% of the oil. Alternative energy is not meeting our needs, at least yet with nothing promising near term. let's become as independent as we can.

Bruce, most of that increase is because of permits approved by the Bush administration and exploration on private lands. Production has increased in spite of Obama's efforts to quell production. Remember that Obama said that under his administration the cost of energy would skyrocket. Fortunately he hasn't been able to his policies through congress. Unfortunately there would be nothing to stop him if he were elected for a second term.
"domestic oil production has done nothing but consistently and sharply risen under the Obama administration. That we're producing more oil within our borders every day than all but the first year of Bush, the Younger's tenure.

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I wish you'd not quote me without reading what I have said.
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Stoney
Feb 26 2012, 08:10 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 25 2012, 10:20 PM
Stoney
Feb 25 2012, 09:18 PM
I agree that cutting prices in half is a bit optimistic. But if we consume 20% of the oil let's produce 20% of the oil. Alternative energy is not meeting our needs, at least yet with nothing promising near term. let's become as independent as we can.

Bruce, most of that increase is because of permits approved by the Bush administration and exploration on private lands. Production has increased in spite of Obama's efforts to quell production. Remember that Obama said that under his administration the cost of energy would skyrocket. Fortunately he hasn't been able to his policies through congress. Unfortunately there would be nothing to stop him if he were elected for a second term.
"domestic oil production has done nothing but consistently and sharply risen under the Obama administration. That we're producing more oil within our borders every day than all but the first year of Bush, the Younger's tenure.

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I wish you'd not quote me without reading what I have said.
I read what you said. If you want me to pay attention to it, cite your source.
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Mountainrivers
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Mountainrivers
Feb 26 2012, 07:03 PM
Stoney
Feb 26 2012, 08:10 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 25 2012, 10:20 PM
Stoney
Feb 25 2012, 09:18 PM
I agree that cutting prices in half is a bit optimistic. But if we consume 20% of the oil let's produce 20% of the oil. Alternative energy is not meeting our needs, at least yet with nothing promising near term. let's become as independent as we can.

Bruce, most of that increase is because of permits approved by the Bush administration and exploration on private lands. Production has increased in spite of Obama's efforts to quell production. Remember that Obama said that under his administration the cost of energy would skyrocket. Fortunately he hasn't been able to his policies through congress. Unfortunately there would be nothing to stop him if he were elected for a second term.
"domestic oil production has done nothing but consistently and sharply risen under the Obama administration. That we're producing more oil within our borders every day than all but the first year of Bush, the Younger's tenure.

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I wish you'd not quote me without reading what I have said.
I read what you said. If you want me to pay attention to it, cite your source.
"Ongoing permitting: facts and figures (Please note that these numbers are updated daily)

Shallow water: To date, 112 new shallow water well permits have been issued since the implementation of new safety and environmental standards on June 8, 2010. Just 6 of these permits are currently pending; with 12 having been returned to the operator for more information.

Deepwater drilling applications fall into two categories for the implementation of our new regulations. To clarify these differences, we have included the narrative below. The deepwater moratorium was lifted on October 12, 2010, and is the reference for inclusion of new rules in applications:

Deepwater permits requiring subsea containment: Since an applicant first successfully demonstrated containment capabilities in mid-February 2011, we have approved 307 of these permits for 94 unique wells, with 30 permits pending, and 17 permits returned to the operator with requests for additional information, particularly information regarding containment.

Deepwater activities not requiring subsea containment: Since the implementation of new safety and environmental standards, 60 of these permits have been approved, with 2 permits pending, and 1 permits returned to the operator with requests for additional information. These activities include water injection wells and procedures using surface blowout preventers.

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It looks like the Obama administration has approved a fairly large number of new permits. But, then, you don't give him credit for anything.
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Here's what I want to know. When the oil spill was going on, they said the diving sub saw several old wells closed up down there. So, why aren't they just hooking back to them and pumping? And, if they can drill a well from one place down, over, and into another well like they did with the spill well, why don't they just set up things on the land and drill at an angle to the wells that way, which is much cheaper and let likely to cause an environmental disaster? There's way to get it done. I think they don't want to as it cuts into their pockets more doing things simple.
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Tim from AL
Feb 26 2012, 08:54 PM
Here's what I want to know. When the oil spill was going on, they said the diving sub saw several old wells closed up down there. So, why aren't they just hooking back to them and pumping? And, if they can drill a well from one place down, over, and into another well like they did with the spill well, why don't they just set up things on the land and drill at an angle to the wells that way, which is much cheaper and let likely to cause an environmental disaster? There's way to get it done. I think they don't want to as it cuts into their pockets more doing things simple.
I think the blowout occurred at the well site on the bottom, not at the place they started from, so drilling from land wouldn't help. As to your other comment, there are over 28000 old wells in the Gulf not being used. Some were abandoned altogether and some were abandoned temporarily.
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Mountainrivers
Feb 26 2012, 07:03 PM
Stoney
Feb 26 2012, 08:10 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 25 2012, 10:20 PM
Stoney
Feb 25 2012, 09:18 PM
I agree that cutting prices in half is a bit optimistic. But if we consume 20% of the oil let's produce 20% of the oil. Alternative energy is not meeting our needs, at least yet with nothing promising near term. let's become as independent as we can.

Bruce, most of that increase is because of permits approved by the Bush administration and exploration on private lands. Production has increased in spite of Obama's efforts to quell production. Remember that Obama said that under his administration the cost of energy would skyrocket. Fortunately he hasn't been able to his policies through congress. Unfortunately there would be nothing to stop him if he were elected for a second term.
"domestic oil production has done nothing but consistently and sharply risen under the Obama administration. That we're producing more oil within our borders every day than all but the first year of Bush, the Younger's tenure.

source
I wish you'd not quote me without reading what I have said.
I read what you said. If you want me to pay attention to it, cite your source.
If you had read my post you'd have seen the source.
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Tim from AL
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Mountainrivers
Feb 26 2012, 09:09 PM
Tim from AL
Feb 26 2012, 08:54 PM
Here's what I want to know. When the oil spill was going on, they said the diving sub saw several old wells closed up down there. So, why aren't they just hooking back to them and pumping? And, if they can drill a well from one place down, over, and into another well like they did with the spill well, why don't they just set up things on the land and drill at an angle to the wells that way, which is much cheaper and let likely to cause an environmental disaster? There's way to get it done. I think they don't want to as it cuts into their pockets more doing things simple.
I think the blowout occurred at the well site on the bottom, not at the place they started from, so drilling from land wouldn't help. As to your other comment, there are over 28000 old wells in the Gulf not being used. Some were abandoned altogether and some were abandoned temporarily.
So, it shouldn't be a drilling issue with that many wells, if they have anything left. It should be an issue of how to get that many rigs out there or tankers or whatever to pump it out. Seemed to me when I heard that like they were saving it for...a rainy day.
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