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Obama's economic success
Topic Started: Feb 22 2012, 01:18 AM (1,594 Views)
Mountainrivers
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Chris
Feb 23 2012, 01:15 AM
Right, again a single measure, where as the above chart tries to capture the bigger picture.

I hope it continues to improve, regardless of who's in the WH.
Yes, but we were talking about the Dow.
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Oh. I thought the topic was Obama's economic success.
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Feb 23 2012, 01:43 AM
Oh. I thought the topic was Obama's economic success.
That's how I titled the topic, but my post was about the Dow. That's what we've been discussing, I think.
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And then I commented it's just a single indicator and so on and so forth.
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Feb 23 2012, 01:48 AM
And then I commented it's just a single indicator and so on and so forth.
Okay!
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Feb 23 2012, 12:51 AM
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Feb 23 2012, 12:48 AM
Neal, I never commented on stock prices.
Did I say you did? Can you reply to what I did say?
I was talking about finance and it appeared to me from your post, that you thought I was talking about markets.

I found your comments to b e reflective of your liberal views. Nothing wrong with that, i just don't agree with them.
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Feb 23 2012, 01:52 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 23 2012, 12:51 AM
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Feb 23 2012, 12:48 AM
Neal, I never commented on stock prices.
Did I say you did? Can you reply to what I did say?
I was talking about finance and it appeared to me from your post, that you thought I was talking about markets.

I found your comments to b e reflective of your liberal views. Nothing wrong with that, i just don't agree with them.
Surprise! :teeth:
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Mountainrivers
Feb 22 2012, 10:53 PM
Banandangees
Feb 22 2012, 10:44 PM
Time to pump iron.

See yins later.
Do you have a home gym, Ban? I'm thinking about setting one up in my basement. If you do, would you share the approximate cost of the equipment? I don't want cheap crap, but I can't afford professional equipment either.

Neal, I started buying York Barbells when I was 15 (in the early 50s). My dad made me work for the money to buy them. "You work for it, you'll take care of it, he'd say. As friends saw that it did some good for building strength and size they wanted in. I said, we'll have to buy more weights and bars then. They'd chip in, we'd order the weights (or get someone to drive us to York just down the Susquehanna and a little east). They'd last a few weeks and quit and I'd have more weights. That happened over again on several occasions. In my basement I have four steal bars, over 1500 lbs in plates, a leg press machine, a bench press bench, pairs of dumbells in 5 lb increments from 5lbs to 50lbs... all York and a set of squat racks that I built years ago. In by prime I used to do sets of half squats with 750 lbs. It's like anything, regularity is the key. You can actually become addicted to exercise,... as distance runners have found out. My dad was right about sweat for it and earn it and you will take care of it. I still have the original set, the "York Big 12 Special." :smile:

Back in the 40s and 50s the myth was that weight training made an athlete tight and muscle bound. When I was a freshman in high school I got tired of getting knocked around by the bigger juniors and seniors during football practice so I decided to muscle up. I was 6' as a freshman but skinny as a rail. The Charlie Atlas course just didn't cut it. Then I read about Bob Hoffman and York. Of course, that weight training myth has changed. Even high schools have weight training coaches for their athletic programs now.

About 20 years ago I bought a Universal Combo Gym set.... for convenience. Along with a stationary bike and treadmill. I've always dabbled through the years. Introduced my son to the benefits of regular exercise, he's used them. He's a Chem Eng now and has gotten away for that type of exercise.

The key is regularity and for folks our age, moderation. No more heavy half squats, and a little more moderation aerobics.

Cost

That's a toughie. Depends on your intent.

Universal Gym or like "combo station" equipment can be a little more expensive, but more safe and convenient.

Barbells Mine are York Barbell equipment

If I were starting at my age today (75), I probably wouldn't start with buying barbells and such. If I were serious and knew I'd really use the equipment, I'd look at systems like Universal gym as they can be bought in various numbers of "stations," are convient and safe if you're exercising by yourself than if using loose weights (barbells/dumbells).

Depending on what you have in mind, what kind of exercise you want to do and for what purpose (thinking of your age and present health) you might want to try a fitness center, or YMCA just to become sure just what type of equipment you need. Maybe you've already done that.

When I say now that I'm going to "pump iron," I'm using weight that I can easily handle for 10 reps, 2 to 3 sets. I don't strive for great increases in strength, but to keep what I have to get well through the day plus some reserve, keep as much flexibility as I can, and strong enough and healthy enough to enjoy my big garden, do some golfing and keep those young girls interested. :smile:

Addendum: Neal this is what I mean by "multi-station home gym equipment:

Link

It's one set of equipment with multiple stations. You pick the size (number of stations that you feel you would use).
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Feb 23 2012, 03:26 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 22 2012, 10:53 PM
Banandangees
Feb 22 2012, 10:44 PM
Time to pump iron.

See yins later.
Do you have a home gym, Ban? I'm thinking about setting one up in my basement. If you do, would you share the approximate cost of the equipment? I don't want cheap crap, but I can't afford professional equipment either.

Neal, I started buying York Barbells when I was 15 (in the early 50s). My dad made me work for the money to buy them. "You work for it, you'll take care of it, he'd say. As friends saw that it did some good for building strength and size they wanted in. I said, we'll have to buy more weights and bars then. They'd chip in, we'd order the weights (or get someone to drive us to York just down the Susquehanna and a little east). They'd last a few weeks and quit and I'd have more weights. That happened over again on several occasions. In my basement I have four steal bars, over 1500 lbs in plates, a leg press machine, a bench press bench, pairs of dumbells in 5 lb increments from 5lbs to 50lbs... all York and a set of squat racks that I built years ago. In by prime I used to do sets of half squats with 750 lbs. It's like anything, regularity is the key. You can actually become addicted to exercise,... as distance runners have found out. My dad was right about sweat for it and earn it and you will take care of it. I still have the original set, the "York Big 12 Special." :smile:

Back in the 40s and 50s the myth was that weight training made an athlete tight and muscle bound. When I was a freshman in high school I got tired of getting knocked around by the bigger juniors and seniors during football practice so I decided to muscle up. I was 6' as a freshman but skinny as a rail. The Charlie Atlas course just didn't cut it. Then I read about Bob Hoffman and York. Of course, that weight training myth has changed. Even high schools have weight training coaches for their athletic programs now.

About 20 years ago I bought a Universal Combo Gym set.... for convenience. Along with a stationary bike and treadmill. I've always dabbled through the years. Introduced my son to the benefits of regular exercise, he's used them. He's a Chem Eng now and has gotten away for that type of exercise.

The key is regularity and for folks our age, moderation. No more heavy half squats, and a little more moderation aerobics.

Cost

That's a toughie. Depends on your intent.

Universal Gym or like "combo station" equipment can be a little more expensive, but more safe and convenient.

Barbells Mine are York Barbell equipment

If I were starting at my age today (75), I probably wouldn't start with buying barbells and such. If I were serious and knew I'd really use the equipment, I'd look at systems like Universal gym as they can be bought in various numbers of "stations," are convient and safe if you're exercising by yourself than if using loose weights (barbells/dumbells).

Depending on what you have in mind, what kind of exercise you want to do and for what purpose (thinking of your age and present health) you might want to try a fitness center, or YMCA just to become sure just what type of equipment you need. Maybe you've already done that.

When I say now that I'm going to "pump iron," I'm using weight that I can easily handle for 10 reps, 2 to 3 sets. I don't strive for great increases in strength, but to keep what I have to get well through the day plus some reserve, keep as much flexibility as I can, and strong enough and healthy enough to enjoy my big garden, do some golfing and keep those young girls interested. :smile:

Addendum: Neal this is what I mean by "multi-station home gym equipment:

Link

It's one set of equipment with multiple stations. You pick the size (number of stations that you feel you would use).
Thanks for that information, Ban. Before I moved to Nebraska, I was a member of a fitness center associated with the local hospital. It was in their physical therapy section and they had great, very expensive, equipment. Stationary bikes, treadmills, seated leg presses, various other machines to build up your arms and legs and other equipment that I rarely used. I recently had shoulder replacement surgery on my right shoulder and the doc said I shouldn't try lifting more than 20 lbs. with that arm. This little town I now live in doesn't have a fitness center and the closest one is 25 miles away. Not too far, but not a pleasant drive every day either. I'll look into the multi-station gyms. That looks like a reasonable alternative.
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