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As unemployment benefits run our, many jobless file for disability SS
Topic Started: Feb 21 2012, 06:27 AM (2,081 Views)
Banandangees
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Mountainrivers
Feb 21 2012, 10:05 PM
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Feb 21 2012, 09:47 PM
Define "disabled."

I'm not sure how you go from "unemployed" to "disabled."
You could be cleaning your gutters, fall off the ladder and break your neck, Be paralyzed. You could be in a car accident and suffer incapacitating injuries. There's a list a mile long about possible reasons for that. It's not a mystery to most folks.
Of the folks who are on unemployment and go to SS disability (or file for it) and meet the description that you give, I'd say are "disabled. I mean, if you fall from a ladder and are injured, if you develop some physical disease (like MS), or any injury where you are determined by a physician that you are incapacitated, then you file.... legitametly. But the article suggests that there are many who don't meet those criteria... really. What you describe I think of as "disabled." Apparently, there is another definition if folks are applying for SS disability only because their UC runs out.
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Ban,

If you go to the SS website you can find their definition of disabled. It is actually fairly clear.
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Feb 22 2012, 05:50 AM
Mountainrivers
Feb 21 2012, 10:05 PM
Banandangees
Feb 21 2012, 09:47 PM
Define "disabled."

I'm not sure how you go from "unemployed" to "disabled."
You could be cleaning your gutters, fall off the ladder and break your neck, Be paralyzed. You could be in a car accident and suffer incapacitating injuries. There's a list a mile long about possible reasons for that. It's not a mystery to most folks.
Of the folks who are on unemployment and go to SS disability (or file for it) and meet the description that you give, I'd say are "disabled. I mean, if you fall from a ladder and are injured, if you develop some physical disease (like MS), or any injury where you are determined by a physician that you are incapacitated, then you file.... legitametly. But the article suggests that there are many who don't meet those criteria... really. What you describe I think of as "disabled." Apparently, there is another definition if folks are applying for SS disability only because their UC runs out.
Well, yes, I agree. My point was that you could be on unemployment and be injured while getting it and then go on disability. Whether the claim of people going on disability just because their unemployment ran out is true or not, I think I would need more information to decide for sure.
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Feb 22 2012, 04:45 AM
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Oh, another BTW...I worked and paid into the system for 25 years. I went from 2006 making $3000 a month to, now, making $700 a month. What a drop. BUT, I can see why some people would still try to do this. Take that $700 a month and figure out the weekly pay, monthly pay, yearly pay, but most important....the HOURLY payrate and compare that to minimum wage and you'll see that most people do it for the fact...it pays more than actually working. For me, it might pay SOME, but you do the math as to how far I fell in income just in this instance. *the company I worked for 17 years closed down, and I went to $2000 a month from 2006 until March 2008 when I quit working and filed disability*
I hope my earlier posts have not given you Tim, the belief that I'm opposed to you receiving disability pay. From what you say, I have no reason to believe you can work at a regular job. And sine Ken told me that you have to be capable of working 40 hours, in your condiiton as explained, it does seem impossible from this end of the internet.

What you have done however is confirm the utter incompetence of the Social Security department of our government. Your account is a blistering indictment against the entitlement in it's entirety. Had you not been required to pay each paycheck into this broken system, you could have invested the funds and paid for a private disability insurance, or a annuity of some form. But you like most of us, are lumped intot he same pot with the deadbeats, and forced to contribute to a broken system, rather than our own system.

Now for your job. I suggest you try writing short stories as one possibility. And although you might think you can't do internet work, I know i guy that does private investigation and background work for a slew of companies from his home office. He weighs in excess of 500lbs and is 100% screwed up physically. But earns many times what a day job pays. He's about your age. Or be a manwhore like Duece Bigalow. With a limited clientele. :smile: Give me time Tim, I'll come up with something for you.
No, I didn't think bad of you. It's the ones faking it instead of looking for jobs and those who you report and they don't want to even look that make the rest of us have such a hard time and suffer most.
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Feb 22 2012, 05:36 AM
Tim,

Are you on SSI or SSD? Since you worked unless you were in a non SS job you should be eligible for SSD and a higher than $700 a month income. The rule with SSD if you are awarded it you collect the amount that you would had received had you kept working until retirement (67 for you?) Your yearly SS statement for the last year that you worked will provide you with what your SSD monthly check should be.

SSD ususally takes over 2 years to obtain but if you have a medical condition that will result in you not living that long your request will be put on the fast track. A guy who I went to the academy with and was a close friend developed throat cancer. He was collecting SSD within 3 months after he applied.

Good luck.
I'm on SSD. It's based on the income you have for the last 5 years. Since I worked at Walmart and Home Depot and didn't work at all for a year, they only went back the first year of my old job I worked at for so long. And, just so happens, it was during that last year that we were on short time and made about what WM and HD paid a year. So, I only got the $700 a month, which from what I understand, is about what an average. In the WM and HD jobs, I didn't work over 6 months on either, and never paid very much into the system on them both combined. So, I guess I didn't qualify for anything much more. I asked that same question, why didn't I qualify for more per month, but the only answer was based on the fact of my work time during that 5 year period and amounts were somehow figured on it by them. My last SS statement said $2740 a month, which I just found and looked at. I don't know why I don't get that much though. They must be holding out on me due to my age or something, they just don't tell me anything.
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Of course, baring any miracle, it won't matter anyway soon. Folks like jcapps will be happy then and throw a party with their you don't work you don't eat mentality. Karma always gets them in the end.
Edited by Tim from AL, Feb 22 2012, 08:18 AM.
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Folks like jcapps will be happy then and throw a party with their you don't work you don't eat mentality.


Uh, Tim, that hasn't been Jcapps' mentality as much as it has been Jim's and Pat's. They are the one's that thought many should be forced to do stoop labor in
Alabama by saying to them: "no work, no eat." (I know that is a paraphrase.)
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Horrible philosophy! Government should take care of everybody.
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Just thought you would want credit for your expressed "mentality," Jim.
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