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Stamp price hike part of Postal Service plan to cut losses
Topic Started: Feb 19 2012, 09:21 AM (1,662 Views)
Mountainrivers
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Pat
Feb 19 2012, 11:45 PM
Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:22 PM
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Feb 19 2012, 11:17 PM
I think the postal service should be put out to bid like concessions are at the ball park. We would end up with better service at a reduced cost. Until then, I will continue to go wireless when I can for my communication and financial needs..
The postal service is mandated by the constitution. You guys are all for changing the constitution if it benefits you, or at least, you think it does. But, let a liberal suggest such a thing and you're all aghast. You have every right to go wireless, but why do you think I should have to?
The constitution Neal, does not prohibit our government from subcontracting mandated services. We go to war in private airliners when the need arises and we have Blackwater type private intelligence and security. The postal service faces 21st century competition and as more and more communication goes wireless, you could adjust what needs contracted out to meet the requirements of the constitution.
The government doesn't run the postal service, Pat. It already sub-contracts some of its services. For instance, when I order something online, it might be shipped via the USPS, but it gets delivered to my Post Office via Fedex.
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Feb 19 2012, 11:53 PM
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_road, there are only two post roads:

* Albany Post Road, connects New York City to Albany, the capital of New York state
* Boston Post Road, traverses New England from New York to Boston

If according to Article 8, To establish Post Offices and Post Roads, two suffice, perhaps we could cut back to two post offices, one at then end of the Albany Post Road, and another at the end of the Boston Post Road.
Why would you want to do that, Chris. If you don't want to use the USPS, don't. Nobody is forcing you to use snail mail service. The postal service could compete very well if it had the liberty to do the things that UPS and Fedex do.
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Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:53 PM
Pat
Feb 19 2012, 11:45 PM
Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:22 PM
Pat
Feb 19 2012, 11:17 PM
I think the postal service should be put out to bid like concessions are at the ball park. We would end up with better service at a reduced cost. Until then, I will continue to go wireless when I can for my communication and financial needs..
The postal service is mandated by the constitution. You guys are all for changing the constitution if it benefits you, or at least, you think it does. But, let a liberal suggest such a thing and you're all aghast. You have every right to go wireless, but why do you think I should have to?
The constitution Neal, does not prohibit our government from subcontracting mandated services. We go to war in private airliners when the need arises and we have Blackwater type private intelligence and security. The postal service faces 21st century competition and as more and more communication goes wireless, you could adjust what needs contracted out to meet the requirements of the constitution.
The government doesn't run the postal service, Pat. It already sub-contracts some of its services. For instance, when I order something online, it might be shipped via the USPS, but it gets delivered to my Post Office via Fedex.
The government subcontracts that? News to me. I can call UPS directly, have them pick up a package and deliver it.
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Feb 19 2012, 11:56 PM
Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:53 PM
Pat
Feb 19 2012, 11:45 PM
Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:22 PM
Pat
Feb 19 2012, 11:17 PM
I think the postal service should be put out to bid like concessions are at the ball park. We would end up with better service at a reduced cost. Until then, I will continue to go wireless when I can for my communication and financial needs..
The postal service is mandated by the constitution. You guys are all for changing the constitution if it benefits you, or at least, you think it does. But, let a liberal suggest such a thing and you're all aghast. You have every right to go wireless, but why do you think I should have to?
The constitution Neal, does not prohibit our government from subcontracting mandated services. We go to war in private airliners when the need arises and we have Blackwater type private intelligence and security. The postal service faces 21st century competition and as more and more communication goes wireless, you could adjust what needs contracted out to meet the requirements of the constitution.
The government doesn't run the postal service, Pat. It already sub-contracts some of its services. For instance, when I order something online, it might be shipped via the USPS, but it gets delivered to my Post Office via Fedex.
The government subcontracts that? News to me. I can call UPS directly, have them pick up a package and deliver it.
You can do the same thing with the Post Office.
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Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:56 PM
Chris
Feb 19 2012, 11:53 PM
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_road, there are only two post roads:

* Albany Post Road, connects New York City to Albany, the capital of New York state
* Boston Post Road, traverses New England from New York to Boston

If according to Article 8, To establish Post Offices and Post Roads, two suffice, perhaps we could cut back to two post offices, one at then end of the Albany Post Road, and another at the end of the Boston Post Road.
Why would you want to do that, Chris. If you don't want to use the USPS, don't. Nobody is forcing you to use snail mail service. The postal service could compete very well if it had the liberty to do the things that UPS and Fedex do.
I in fact don't use it other than as a supply of fire starter material.

And I'd be all for privatizing the postal service.
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Feb 19 2012, 11:58 PM
Mountainrivers
Feb 19 2012, 11:56 PM
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Feb 19 2012, 11:53 PM
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_road, there are only two post roads:

* Albany Post Road, connects New York City to Albany, the capital of New York state
* Boston Post Road, traverses New England from New York to Boston

If according to Article 8, To establish Post Offices and Post Roads, two suffice, perhaps we could cut back to two post offices, one at then end of the Albany Post Road, and another at the end of the Boston Post Road.
Why would you want to do that, Chris. If you don't want to use the USPS, don't. Nobody is forcing you to use snail mail service. The postal service could compete very well if it had the liberty to do the things that UPS and Fedex do.
I in fact don't use it other than as a supply of fire starter material.

And I'd be all for privatizing the postal service.
In effect, it is already privatized.
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And nearly bankrupt. Now if government can just resist bailing them out! Now there's hope and change for you.
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Feb 20 2012, 12:06 AM
And nearly bankrupt. Now if government can just resist bailing them out! Now there's hope and change for you.
Nope, if the government would just let them charge what they need to charge, locate only where they want to locate, deliver on their own schedule, the PO would be profitable.
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Wonder who keeps the private carriers like UPS in check? Could it be the USPS? Why I'll be durned, hadn't thought of that.
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Feb 20 2012, 12:08 AM
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Feb 20 2012, 12:06 AM
And nearly bankrupt. Now if government can just resist bailing them out! Now there's hope and change for you.
Nope, if the government would just let them charge what they need to charge, locate only where they want to locate, deliver on their own schedule, the PO would be profitable.
And the service would be much poorer to many folks in this country.
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