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| Mountainrivers | Feb 20 2012, 07:23 PM Post #51 |
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What a crock of crap! The whole idea of our government is to protect the rights of minorities against the tyranny of the majority. As Ken said, we don't allow majorities to decide what our human rights are. Old fat ass just made a political decision to please his rabid right-wing constituents. He's a tub of lard and a great menace to liberty. And Ban agrees with him. Geesh! Please explain how two people, regardless of sex, loving and marrying each other affects anybody else's lives. That's the dumbest argument ever for not allowing for same-sex marriage. |
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| Chris | Feb 20 2012, 08:03 PM Post #52 |
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"The whole idea of our government is to protect the rights of minorities against the tyranny of the majority." Actually to protect the right of the people against intrusion by government. The majority cannot rule but through government, ditto the minority, nor can corporations, but through government. All anyone has to do is read the Declaration and Constitution to see this. The Constitution says nothing at all about regulating marriage, therefore the government should have no say whatsoever. At the federal level, at the state level that depends on each state's constitution, and from there it's left to the people to decide for themselves. On this view, much of what government does is illegal, and this is where most liberals, and many so called conservatives abandon the Constitution, because their vision of fairness outweighs freedom. |
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| Mountainrivers | Feb 20 2012, 09:27 PM Post #53 |
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I don't think state constitutions can override the national constitution. Marriage is a thing that transcends state borders. It has to be a national issue. |
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| Banandangees | Feb 20 2012, 09:33 PM Post #54 |
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"I don't think state constitutions can override the national constitution. Marriage is a thing that transcends state borders. It has to be a national issue." Better tell that to California and some of the other states that have already made a rulling on same sex marriage. |
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| Mountainrivers | Feb 20 2012, 09:37 PM Post #55 |
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Does the national constitution say anything about same-sex marriage? |
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| Tim from AL | Feb 20 2012, 09:48 PM Post #56 |
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I think faggots should be able to marry. That way, when they grow old and after years of arguing, they can join this forum here as grumpy old buttholes like so many others here.
Edited by Tim from AL, Feb 20 2012, 09:48 PM.
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| Mountainrivers | Feb 20 2012, 09:53 PM Post #57 |
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Do you include yourself in that description, Tim? Seems like you complain and argue as much as the rest of us. All the while telling us we shouldn't |
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| campingken | Feb 21 2012, 02:06 AM Post #58 |
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Ban, I believe that prior federal court decisions require states to recognize and accept marriages preformed in other states as legal and binding in their own. This rule was made due to some states not accepting interacial marriages as legal. When it comes right down to it a marriage is nothing more than a legal contract between 2 consenting adults. Those who wish God to be involved in their marriage are free to do so. Also churches should be allowed to slam their doors in the faces of anyone they wish to. It is time to take the tax exempt status away from church's. Then they can discriminate to their heart's content. |
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| Mountainrivers | Feb 21 2012, 02:11 AM Post #59 |
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"It is time to take the tax exempt status away from church's. Then they can discriminate to their heart's content. " Stomping my foot and screaming............YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Tim from AL | Feb 21 2012, 02:14 AM Post #60 |
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Where am I complaining here? I said they should be able to marry so they can, too, come into this forum and be grumpy old men like all of you guys. Nope. Didn't complain a bit. Nor, was I complaining about the name calling, just wishing some of you so called friends would stop acting like 2 year olds or thinking you should fight and if you lose, take your ball and wagon home with you. Just trying to help. But, I guess, it's apparent that those who think such must be the guilty party, as if you feel like you're being talked about, and paranoid that it's you that's being talked about, well, it's not my fault. A guilty conscience always comes out. SO, who has a guilty conscience and is talking to the person who was trying to help keep down the fighting and back stabbing? The answer shows the guilty party just like the glove that fits. And, the reply to this message of contempt shows the guilty party's hand, as the rest will see. Who's gonna say i'm wrong? |
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