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Europe's Supply-Side Revolution; It's working for Germany
Topic Started: Feb 18 2012, 11:28 PM (3,039 Views)
Jim Miller
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Why don't you actually mind your own business and stay out of our affairs. Just because you are a U.S. citizen wannabe does not entitle you to our business.
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General Jim. This may come as a surprise but the topic is about Germany and it is not one of our 50 states (I suspect that your students would also not have known this.)

Are you getting your crack senior "scooter troopers" involved in a 2 front war? First you take Canada and then Europe? War is serious, and unlike an early bird all you can eat special, you shouldn't bite off more than you can chew.
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Chris
Feb 20 2012, 08:51 AM
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Feb 20 2012, 08:12 AM
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Feb 20 2012, 08:06 AM
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Feb 20 2012, 08:01 AM
"And how many times have the righties said "the whole tax system needs to be revamped. "

Yeah, but what they want to revamp is to give more money to the fat cats and take it from the others.
Some, perhaps, not all.

I'd prefer Fair Tax.
When lower income people realized how much more tax they would be paying and how much less tax the wealthy would be paying under a fair tax system, they would rebel .
There's a rebate. Really, you should look into it before criticizing.
I have looked into it Chris. The rebate is for the really poor people. Middle income folks will pay more tax under the fair tax plan. It stands to reason, that if the rich pay less, the less rich will pay more. Unless you're the federal reserve, you can't just create that money out of thin air.
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Chris
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"I have looked into it Chris. The rebate is for the really poor people. Middle income folks will pay more tax under the fair tax plan. It stands to reason, that if the rich pay less, the less rich will pay more. Unless you're the federal reserve, you can't just create that money out of thin air."

See "The FairTax is regressive and shifts the tax burden onto lower and middle income people". Thought you'd looked into it.
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Feb 20 2012, 07:47 PM
"I have looked into it Chris. The rebate is for the really poor people. Middle income folks will pay more tax under the fair tax plan. It stands to reason, that if the rich pay less, the less rich will pay more. Unless you're the federal reserve, you can't just create that money out of thin air."

See "The FairTax is regressive and shifts the tax burden onto lower and middle income people". Thought you'd looked into it.
You quote the Fair Tax website as if they have a clue what they're talking about. Since we have never had an "un-fair tax" like you propose, how can they make all those supposedly concrete statements about what the results would be? I've looked into this subject from both sides and I think that the "fair tax" is wishful thinking for those who think that they should pay less and the rest of us should pay more. Instead of just accepting the word of the proponents of the fair tax, look at what the treasury has to say about it. I suspect they have a better handle on the outcome of instituting that kind of system.
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Feb 20 2012, 08:21 AM
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Some idea as to how you would revamp it would be interesting, Ban.
To be real fair, everyone should contribute something.
That's that old Fox mantra. How much difference would it make in the grand scheme of things if all the poor people contributed a dollar to the national treasury. It's simply BS and has nothing to do with fairness. You've been indoctrinated in every phase of Fox News obfuscation.
The Fox mantra? No, Brew asked me (ME) a question and I answered it, from my point of view.

And, I guess you left out the Left's mantra, to be fair as Obama wants you to be, "TAX THE RICH MORE," THAT'S THE ANSWER TO PROSPERITY."

No sharing the load for the left apparently. Have you ever heard of the old, outmoded policy of making a kid earn the money for what he wants to buy so that he will have a better appreciation of it and take better care of it, place more value in it? The harder that kid has to work for something, the more he has to sweat, the more appreciation he has for what he worked for. That policy died with FDR and LBJ and Obama is making sure it stays that way.

CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING! then maybe you'll have some appreciation for it instead of taking it for granted.
Edited by Banandangees, Feb 20 2012, 09:23 PM.
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Mountainrivers
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Some idea as to how you would revamp it would be interesting, Ban.
To be real fair, everyone should contribute something.
That's that old Fox mantra. How much difference would it make in the grand scheme of things if all the poor people contributed a dollar to the national treasury. It's simply BS and has nothing to do with fairness. You've been indoctrinated in every phase of Fox News obfuscation.
The Fox mantra? No, Brew asked me (ME) a question and I answered it, from my point of view.

And, I guess you left out the Left's mantra, to be fair as Obama wants you to be, "TAX THE RICH MORE," THAT'S THE ANSWER TO PROSPERITY."

No sharing the load for the left.
More crap from Ban. Protect the rich at all cost. Even if it means you will pay more.

"No sharing the load for the left."

Are you suggesting that those of us on the left don't "share the load"?
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Mountainrivers
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""TAX THE RICH MORE," THAT'S THE ANSWER TO PROSPERITY."

Yes, that is the road to prosperity. It leaves more money in the hands of those who will spend it on things other than mansions, yachts, Rolls Royces, etc. The wealthy don't produce much except profits from things like hedge funds, which puts everyone else, who invests in markets, at risk.
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More crap! Great answer. I'm suggesting that the left teaches it's own very bad policies. The "you don't have to work to eat, or have a place to live. And you don't have to contribute. But that's a pat answer for a progressive. CRAP

Spread the responsibility. Give something! Do something! Rise up! Work your God given talents..... or give what you have to those who do something so it can multiply.

Obama like to quote Jesus. Well, havel you ever heard his parable of the three servants and the "Talents?" Obama like to pluck his "out of context" scripture.
Edited by Banandangees, Feb 20 2012, 09:29 PM.
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Fairness is for other people to do all the work, make all the contributions, take all the chances.

Now that's the definition of greed.
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