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| Brewster | Feb 18 2012, 01:45 AM Post #1 |
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Why I Will Not Vote for Harper in Spite of his Excellent Economic RecordThe Complete Story Some accuse Climate Scientists of "politicizing" their findings, with the attendant implication that doing so somehow corrupts the process, in spite of the fact that not one of them, in Canada or elsewhere, has ever been found guilty of the practice. But these scientists are also citizens of their country, and the world. Should they not have the right to speak out? Edited by Brewster, Feb 18 2012, 01:49 AM.
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| Chris | Feb 18 2012, 02:21 AM Post #2 |
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"Some accuse Climate Scientists of "politicizing" their findings, with the attendant implication that doing so somehow corrupts the process..." As a skeptic, I accuse some scientists, and you, and others, of politicizing science, but without the attendant implication you draw. --Not saying that some deniers don't imply that. "But these scientists are also citizens of their country, and the world. Should they not have the right to speak out?" That depends. In the case cited in the article the person was "due to give evidence to a judicial inquiry". Why is that inferred as suppression? Her work was published, was it not? And on the 15th of this month she testified and spoke out--something your story, published today, omits: Scientist claims early evidence of salmon virus, feared lab would be closed
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| Brewster | Feb 18 2012, 02:31 AM Post #3 |
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You are correct Chris, I politicize the science every chance I can get, and encourage as many others as I can to do the same. Global Climate Change is the most serious political problem facing our planet - it is an existential issue. I especially encourage those who understand and accept the science to "politicize" it even harder in areas where Deniers like yourself post. Yes, Chris, you are a Denier, a person who claims to be a skeptic but rarely questions any source that claims to have info that "falsifies" the concensus, and in fact defends that questionable source even when the source's obvious bias / lack of expertise is made evident. And like any good Denier, you refuse to admit errors, and continue to repost data that has been shown to prove exactly the opposite of what you want, or to be internally inconsistent if not flat out wrong. On edit: Enough time wasted - Deny away. Edited by Brewster, Feb 18 2012, 02:57 AM.
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| Chris | Feb 18 2012, 03:04 AM Post #4 |
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"Deniers like yourself" Why do you need to lie? "rarely questions any source..." As has been shown you, with no expertise, disqualified formally trained and experienced and recognized experts, simply because they are skeptics who you disagree with. Curry. Let us note you failed to respond to my post in any way whatsoever and chose instead to simply attack me personally with your usual bluster. Edited by Chris, Feb 18 2012, 03:07 AM.
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| campingken | Feb 18 2012, 03:33 AM Post #5 |
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Who is the "us" that you are speaking of? Chris it must be difficult being you. Here you are marching in the parade of life with the absolute conviction that everyone, save you, is out of step.... |
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| jackd | Feb 18 2012, 03:57 AM Post #6 |
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Why I Will Not Vote for Harper in Spite of his Excellent Economic Record: * His pulling out the Kyoto protocol, in spite of Canada's signature * His recent axing of the long-gun registry, * His newly found religion reinstating monarchist symbols across the country and expecially in Quebec and the Maritime provinces, * His stupid and costly crime bill in times when crimes have been at its lowest in history, * Having won at the last election does not give him the green light to do and impose his religious views to the world. ...and his economic record (if there is really one) would have been a total fiasco if the previous liberal government had not left him with relatively strong economic situation, budget surplusses ($13billion when the Liberal took a dive) a well regulated financial and banking system when Harper took the throne He will certainly be recognized by history as having been the worst PM Canada in the last century, the one that has tried to chage some of the basic values of Canadians to fullfill his religious and right wing aspirations. |
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| Chris | Feb 18 2012, 03:58 AM Post #7 |
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"Who is the "us" that you are speaking of?" Readers and me. "Chris it must be difficult being you. Here you are marching in the parade of life with the absolute conviction that everyone, save you, is out of step.." Why do you make things up? |
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| Sea Dog | Feb 18 2012, 04:02 AM Post #8 |
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Jack, perhaps you should explain to our American friends how your feelings as a Quebecois may differ from those of Canadians in other provinces. |
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| Chris | Feb 18 2012, 04:07 AM Post #9 |
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Jack seems as liberal if not socialist as Brewster, so what is this difference, Hank?
Edited by Chris, Feb 18 2012, 04:07 AM.
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| Sea Dog | Feb 18 2012, 04:51 AM Post #10 |
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I do not wish to speak for Jack. Suffice to say that many residents of Quebec view politics and the Monarchy differently than do most other Canadians. |
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