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Factors Causing High Unemployment
Topic Started: Feb 17 2012, 07:55 PM (740 Views)
Mountainrivers
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Stoney
Feb 18 2012, 08:13 AM
Jobs are available. Its a matter of how bad someone wants to work. To Eric's point I'd say that every new person produces new work and new opportunities for work. They need food and shelter. They have desires beyond food and shelter.

But to get the manufacturing jobs back we're going to have to compete for those jobs. We can subsidize them for a period, but we'll run out of money to do that eventually. If we have people who can stay home and earn more than they can in the labor market we'll have people stay home. If we have people who won't work here for less than $30 an hour (plus benefits) and then limit productivity so more than are needed are hired and people overseas will more for a third of that (or less) we'll be sending jobs overseas.
Just saw a report on the nightly news that a new auto plant is opening in Athens, GA. In the report they said that there are lots of jobs available all over the country, but there are not enough qualified people to fill them. We need to train people for the jobs that are available, not just the ones they want.
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Feb 18 2012, 08:21 AM
Stoney
Feb 18 2012, 08:13 AM
Jobs are available. Its a matter of how bad someone wants to work. To Eric's point I'd say that every new person produces new work and new opportunities for work. They need food and shelter. They have desires beyond food and shelter.

But to get the manufacturing jobs back we're going to have to compete for those jobs. We can subsidize them for a period, but we'll run out of money to do that eventually. If we have people who can stay home and earn more than they can in the labor market we'll have people stay home. If we have people who won't work here for less than $30 an hour (plus benefits) and then limit productivity so more than are needed are hired and people overseas will more for a third of that (or less) we'll be sending jobs overseas.
Just saw a report on the nightly news that a new auto plant is opening in Athens, GA. In the report they said that there are lots of jobs available all over the country, but there are not enough qualified people to fill them. We need to train people for the jobs that are available, not just the ones they want.
For people to go to work they need to have the skills and be where the jobs are. I think the better way to accomplish that would be through the private sector, employers doing some training and moving with some investment by the prospective workers. But if the country decides to spend the money to make that happen I'd rather see it spent there than sent to a union or a car nobody wants to buy.

One thing we're going to have to di is make it easier to provide for a family by working than by staying at home.
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"One thing we're going to have to di is make it easier to provide for a family by working than by staying at home."

That's not going to happen with so many advocating and demanding the government dependemcy entailed by social democracy.
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It might if the government provided things like daycare and instituted universal healthcare so going to work did not cut you off from medical care. (Assuming most on welfare will only be able to get jobs with no insurance)
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Government provided daycare? Good God! Can't you Canadians do anything for yourselves?
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Jim Miller
Feb 19 2012, 01:06 AM
Government provided daycare? Good God! Can't you Canadians do anything for yourselves?
Jim,
who looked after your kids?
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Not discussing my business with a foreigner.
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Jim Miller
Feb 19 2012, 01:06 AM
Government provided daycare? Good God! Can't you Canadians do anything for yourselves?
Oh,
which American were you asking this question?
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Feb 19 2012, 01:10 AM
Jim Miller
Feb 19 2012, 01:06 AM
Government provided daycare? Good God! Can't you Canadians do anything for yourselves?
Jim,
who looked after your kids?
Miller didn't have kids. His DNA terminates with him.
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Feb 18 2012, 08:13 AM
Jobs are available. Its a matter of how bad someone wants to work. To Eric's point I'd say that every new person produces new work and new opportunities for work. They need food and shelter. They have desires beyond food and shelter.

But to get the manufacturing jobs back we're going to have to compete for those jobs. We can subsidize them for a period, but we'll run out of money to do that eventually. If we have people who can stay home and earn more than they can in the labor market we'll have people stay home. If we have people who won't work here for less than $30 an hour (plus benefits) and then limit productivity so more than are needed are hired and people overseas will more for a third of that (or less) we'll be sending jobs overseas.
For every minimum wage job out there in our area there are many applicants. Even places like McDonalds it's hard to get in if you don't have a lot of experience. I often hear, well they could just move to someplace where their is a boom. Where are they going to find the money for bus fare, or to eat, or a place to live until the 1st paycheck? For many it's not as easy as those armchairing the situation like to think.
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