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So is Joe Paterno a
Topic Started: Nov 9 2011, 08:02 PM (1,410 Views)
colo_crawdad
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Pat,

I do not think "most" would call my post Ad hominem or an attempt to divert. I realize you would and I can accept that given the untenable position you seem to be wanting to hold. I repeat, your posts indicate a willingness to crucify Joe Paterno based solely on speculation. I think that is a reasonable observation about your posts, not about you.
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It's not speculation Colo that Joe did not call the police and report the child rape that was reported to him. And i disagree that I have crucified the guy. It was not i who failed in their moral obligation to report to the police. Outside you and Jim, I know of nobody who disagrees with my position. Nine years have gone by and since pedophiles have been shown to be consistent in their quest for new victims, the gravity of what has occurred since Paterno was notified is even greater.

Oh sure there has to be a trial and the eight accusers (opps it's now up to seventeen), must testfy and the defense must answer.
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Pat,

You are correct. Joe went on to do his job expecting his superiors to do theirs. They failed to do so. And for that you speculate that he did other things that actually were wrong. I just do not buy that.n nI find it almost funny how many folks are willing to accept the absolute chin of authority in accepting the Board of Trustees action but refuse to accept Joe Paterno's reliance on that same chain of authority. Tht seems terribly hypocritical to me.
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I don't think you get it at all Colo, so let me give you and example that came out in the news.

A few years ago, the Peen State football team went on a four or five year losing streak. The Board of Trustees and AD called in Joe and asked him to resign. He said no.

Now do you understand who the captain was?
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Nov 10 2011, 11:00 PM
I don't think you get it at all Colo, so let me give you and example that came out in the news.

A few years ago, the Peen State football team went on a four or five year losing streak. The Board of Trustees and AD called in Joe and asked him to resign. He said no.

Now do you understand who the captain was?
WOW, I wasn't aware of this. Good grief. Worse than I thought.
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Nov 10 2011, 11:00 PM
I don't think you get it at all Colo, so let me give you and example that came out in the news.

A few years ago, the Peen State football team went on a four or five year losing streak. The Board of Trustees and AD called in Joe and asked him to resign. He said no.

Now do you understand who the captain was?
If I ;believed in a conspiracy to dump Paterno, you just provided the evidence supporting that belief, Pat.

But I repeat, Joe went on to do his job expecting his superiors to do theirs. They failed to do so. And for that you speculate that he did other things that actually were wrong. I just do not buy that.n nI find it almost funny how many folks are willing to accept the absolute chin of authority in accepting the Board of Trustees action but refuse to accept Joe Paterno's reliance on that same chain of authority. Tht seems terribly hypocritical to me.
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What will become of the coach that raped and abused children in his care. What Paterno did was report the dirty deeds to the higher echelon and wash his hands of the matter.
You would almost think whoever saw the action commited on the youth would have been compelled to report it to the State Police.
That will most likely change. Of course people will bitch as to govt. control taking over college sports etc.
Why is Paterno the only one getting press. I guess it sells airtime.
Cut the old guy some slack. He has done more for his players , the college and youth in general than most ever will.
Everything he worked for all his career has been destroyd by those that really dropped the ball the big shots in charge.
They should start picketing their homes.
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I believe the coach that committed the horrendous acts has been arrested and will be charged and tried.
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How Old Joe acted flies in the face of his claim that he is "all abouting helping young people." No matter how you cut it his personal lack of action resulted in more (we won't ever know the exact number) children being sexually assaulted.

Colo,

Would you feel any guilt if you "did only what was legally required" (the barest minimum) and as the result other innocents were victimized? This is what happened here.

From what I have read the leaders at Pen State decided to follow the "Cover up Game Plan" that was developed by the Catholic Church.
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Nov 11 2011, 03:40 AM
How Old Joe acted flies in the face of his claim that he is "all abouting helping young people." No matter how you cut it his personal lack of action resulted in more (we won't ever know the exact number) children being sexually assaulted.

Colo,

Would you feel any guilt if you "did only what was legally required" (the barest minimum) and as the result other innocents were victimized? This is what happened here.

From what I have read the leaders at Pen State decided to follow the "Cover up Game Plan" that was developed by the Catholic Church.
I think I answered that question in full as a response to Pat elsewhere on this forum. If not or you cannot find it, ask again.
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