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Joe Paterno to be fired by Penn State
Topic Started: Nov 9 2011, 03:28 AM (1,450 Views)
ngc1514
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For someone who finds sports not very interesting... why is this important? Or is it?
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colo_crawdad
Nov 9 2011, 05:24 AM
Jim,

I fully understand your wanting to wait until investigations are concluded. There are absoluteely no facts yet that would indicate that Paterno did anything other than follow the law. On a radio talk show there was speculation by one of the hosts that this is being used somewhat unethically to remove Paterno by some folks who have had theta agenda for some time.
Lowell, I don't know about you but I was instructed every year that as teachers we were to be constantly on the look out for signs of child abuse. If we had any suspicion of child abuse we were to immediately to report it to our Assistant Principal. We were further instructed not to call the police ourselves as that was the responsibility of the administration. Of the two or three cases that I was aware of over the thirty-one years on the job that was exactly how they were handled. Unlike some here I cannot condemn Joe for doing his job.
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What were your instructions regarding being decent and respectful to our wonderful nothhern neighbors?
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Pat
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I'm surprised by those who believe that Joe's moral responsibility ended at reporting this to the administration. And I find it hard to believe that a teacher who reported being informed that a 10 year old child was raped by another teacher would not insire that the police were notified. School administrators are not trained police investigators.
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Jim Miller
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Nor are coaches.
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Jim,

The official protocol in Colorado is for the teacher to notify a Counselor who notifies an in building administrator. That administrator is to notify Social Services who investigates and then decides whether or not to inform the police. When I drove the bus to and from Speech and Debate tournaments, many students felt I was invisible and could not hear discussion. I overheard probably in excess of 20 kids talking about parental abuse. In every case I reported that to a Counselor who informed me that Social Services were already involved. It was made very clear that my legal and moral obligation was to report suspected incidents to a school counselor. Since every article I have yet seen agree that Paterno followed the law, and apparently school policy, I have real difficulty in faulting him for his behavior.

I should add that a similar policy is in effect at child care businesses in Colorado. Teachers there who have any suspicion of child abuse are to report ouch suspicion to one of the administrators who contacts Social Services. No one at the center is to contact the police. That is essentially State law.
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Strange, you hear more about Paterno than the perp. I wonder how a pedophile would not get caught until he was in his 60's.
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It is apparent that the ball was dropped at levels well beyond Paterno. Did the athletic Director report to the proper authorities? Did the authorities do their job of investigation and/or indictment?
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tomdrobin
Nov 9 2011, 10:35 AM
Strange, you hear more about Paterno than the perp. I wonder how a pedophile would not get caught until he was in his 60's.
Joe has always been attacked by many of his detractors. His success both on and off the field irritated many that could never be the success he is.
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Jim Miller
Nov 9 2011, 08:44 AM
colo_crawdad
Nov 9 2011, 05:24 AM
Jim,

I fully understand your wanting to wait until investigations are concluded. There are absoluteely no facts yet that would indicate that Paterno did anything other than follow the law. On a radio talk show there was speculation by one of the hosts that this is being used somewhat unethically to remove Paterno by some folks who have had theta agenda for some time.
Lowell, I don't know about you but I was instructed every year that as teachers we were to be constantly on the look out for signs of child abuse. If we had any suspicion of child abuse we were to immediately to report it to our Assistant Principal. We were further instructed not to call the police ourselves as that was the responsibility of the administration. Of the two or three cases that I was aware of over the thirty-one years on the job that was exactly how they were handled. Unlike some here I cannot condemn Joe for doing his job.
So you would follow the school rules and not report such a hideous, despicable crime? Does accessory to the crime let alone a moral compass not steer the people of pennsylvania? It now explains all the propagand crapola that Jim posts daily.
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