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Federal Appeals court upholds Healthcare Law
Topic Started: Nov 9 2011, 01:50 AM (1,907 Views)
Pat
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2016716325_apushealthcareoverhaul.html

I hope the supreme court decides to take on the issues raised.
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Brewster
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Especially this one:

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"People who make a decision to forego health insurance do not opt out of the health care market," she wrote. "Their action is not felt by themselves alone. Instead, when they become ill or injured and cannot pay their bills, their costs are shifted to others. Those costs - $43 billion in 2008 alone - are borne by doctors, hospitals, insured individuals, taxpayers and small businesses throughout the nation."

Someday someone will explain to me why so-called conservatives in the US, who claim they want everyone to be responsible for thir own actions, are so willing to let freeloaders get away with not buying Health Insurance.

The cost to the average taxpayer is astronomical, and health care suffers as administration gobbles up the dollars.
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Jim Miller
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We don't owe foreigners any explanation.
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Brewster
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Maybe not, but I think you should explain it to the taxpayers footing the bill.

Or maybe to all those dead babies you keep claiming you're worried about:

U.S. has the second worst newborn death rate in developed world
Edited by Brewster, Nov 9 2011, 03:18 AM.
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Jim Miller
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Not your concern.
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Brewster
Nov 9 2011, 02:56 AM
Especially this one:

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"People who make a decision to forego health insurance do not opt out of the health care market," she wrote. "Their action is not felt by themselves alone. Instead, when they become ill or injured and cannot pay their bills, their costs are shifted to others. Those costs - $43 billion in 2008 alone - are borne by doctors, hospitals, insured individuals, taxpayers and small businesses throughout the nation."

Someday someone will explain to me why so-called conservatives in the US, who claim they want everyone to be responsible for thir own actions, are so willing to let freeloaders get away with not buying Health Insurance.

The cost to the average taxpayer is astronomical, and health care suffers as administration gobbles up the dollars.
Yep, they don't opt out of the market, but they could through a change of policy. Which by the way, is long over due.

It's none of my business if somebody wants to commit a form of suicide by opting out of insuring themselves. In my opinion, they should be refused taxpayer help when they are injured or become ill. It's a gamble made by some and should be treated as such.
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So you should just let 'em die.

OK. Hard to argue with that attitude.

It would be a good solution to the unemployment situation as well.

I wonder who would pay to clean up the mess? All those dead bodies and such, especially if an epidemic ever takes root...

Edited by Brewster, Nov 9 2011, 03:29 AM.
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Brew:
Dont you wish you were a right winger?
Look at the money you would save!
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The questions you raise Brew merely seek a complicated view. An assumption perhaps that we have some moral obligation to irresponsible people. The millions of decisions people make in their life should have consequences if the decisions are dumb.

A person is born into the richest nation on earth. Provided education and nurturing by the society and family. If they decide to not make arrangements ofr health insurance or burial then two consequences exist. 1. If they get ill or injure themselves, unless they can find a bleeding heart to pay for their care, unless they have saved enough money to pay fpr their care, and unless their family can care for them, then dearth is a real possibility. If subsequently, nobody claims the body, then some quick lime and an unmarked grave awaits them. We do after all, need to protect ourselves from their disease carrying corpse.
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Our business is not any foreigners concern. Yet they continue to butt in.
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