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Number Of Americans On Food Stamps; Another High Years After Recession's End
Topic Started: Nov 5 2011, 12:38 AM (869 Views)
Chris
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Entitlements are only increasing, and getting more expensive, and more and more are becoming dependent. What is it, some 47% don't pay taxes. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are in trouble. It's simply not sustainable. If we keep heading in this direction the government, and perhaps the economy, will collapse. It's not too big to fail, but too big to bail.
Edited by Chris, Nov 6 2011, 12:27 PM.
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colo_crawdad
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I think an additional factor that has to be recognized in this whole "debate" is the significantly larger population that is essentially urbanized today.
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tomdrobin
Nov 6 2011, 10:31 AM
No doubt the developement of the welfare state was not such a good idea. Because it created much dependency. But, it's not going to go away with defunding it, not without some serious suffering.
Suffering! Well, it's serious suffering now or unberable suffering later. Again, you will see suffering in Greece, Italy is not far behind.

What Chris wrote are facts of our situation:

"Entitlements are only increasing, and getting more expensive, and more and more are becoming dependent. What is it, some 47% don't pay taxes. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are in trouble. It's simply not sustainable. If we keep heading in this direction the government, and perhaps the economy, will collapse. It's not too big to fail, but too big to bail."

It will require a new taxing policy where everyone contributes something that will increase government revenue and serious cuts in government spending. What other way is there?
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Chris
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colo_crawdad
Nov 6 2011, 10:16 PM
I think an additional factor that has to be recognized in this whole "debate" is the significantly larger population that is essentially urbanized today.
Already stated: "Entitlements are only increasing, and getting more expensive, and more and more are becoming dependent."

But thanks for highlighting it. What that says is that even if all else stayed the same--costs didn't rise, percentages dependent didn't rise, etc--population growth alone makes the liberal agenda unsustainable.
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The welfare state has encouraged prolific breeding of more who are likely to be dependant. IMO the only way to turn it around is incentives to that segment of the population to not reproduce.
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One incentive would be to work, so they wouldn't have so much free (sex) time on their hands.

An idea I heard recently was put them to work doing the jobs illegals do. They're already getting paid via welfare, and the illegals would find no market for their work. Two birds, one stone.
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