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| Deleted User | Nov 14 2011, 06:22 AM Post #161 |
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Then tell me where the graphs came from. Do they come direct from Dr. Curry? If so you should be able to point me to where she published them. If not, provide the link they did come from. How much more simple can that possibly be? http://i.snag.gy/ just does not cut it. Below is another graph, you can see is on the same web site, not as pretty but just as valid. You are a slippery one, I will give you that.
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| Chris | Nov 14 2011, 06:48 AM Post #162 |
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"Then tell me where the graphs came from." Time to end your lie. You requested that and I gave you the source in post #124. You replied to that post in #127 by attacking an organization. I replied to that in post #128. For the last 3 pages you've been lying through you teeth that I didn't give you my source. Normally, telco, your arguments address facts with fallacies. Now you're trying to use some logic that because I won't give you my source there is something suspicious. In short, you're now trying to argue logically from a lie. You can't draw rational conclusions based on fallacies or lies. Now stop lying, telco. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 14 2011, 06:53 AM Post #163 |
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Then give me a link to the source of your graphs and we can settle this. Just how hard can that be? Apparently very hard by the looks of it. If you present a graph to back up an assertion, be prepared to defend its source. That is the way it works in the real world, you know. Accusing someone of lying because you won't back up your sources, is a cowards way out. Just to be clear BTW, here are the graphs in question: http://i.snag.gy/Jy3ur.jpg http://i.snag.gy/wqHcQ.jpg I simply want their source, not the website you uploaded them onto. |
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| Chris | Nov 14 2011, 06:58 AM Post #164 |
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| Chris | Nov 14 2011, 07:01 AM Post #165 |
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Since you've added another graph to your lie that I did not give the source I'll show it another lie by pointing to my post #103. Actually, go on lying. Edited by Chris, Nov 14 2011, 07:01 AM.
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| Deleted User | Nov 14 2011, 07:01 AM Post #166 |
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Back up or shut up, is about i can say at this point. |
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| Chris | Nov 14 2011, 07:02 AM Post #167 |
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I backed up the fact you have been lying. I provided sources to all I have referred to. Edited by Chris, Nov 14 2011, 07:03 AM.
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| Brewster | Nov 14 2011, 07:05 AM Post #168 |
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I notice Chris is still hanging on to that one solitary lamppost. In spite of repeated posts proving that Curry either didn't understand the BEST research, doesn't understand statistics, or (more likely) was flat out lying, Chris soldiers on, without a single reliable secondary source to back up anything he says. I showed how Curry has managed to "Hide the Incline" by butchering BEST's graphs, then when even that wasn't good enough, cherry picking what she could out of that. But apparently Chris missed it, and keeps talking about her partial graph while ignoring the overall picture. But don't feel bad if you can't convince Chris, gang. His new heroine Judith Curry seems to be somewhat reality-challenged as well. I could find dozens of rebuttles, but this little question sums it all up:
I also rather enjoyed this response. It's quite long, but here's the conclusion:
That suggestion would go a long way here as well. All these pages, and Chris has learned nothing. But I'm sure he can find a few "Ad Hom"s and "Straw Men" in OTHER PEOPLE'S WRITINGS somewhere. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 14 2011, 07:08 AM Post #169 |
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Ok, i see one of them in there, SPPI, a well known denier organization which has been unable to get non-profit status, BTW. How about the other one? |
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| Chris | Nov 14 2011, 07:13 AM Post #170 |
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"In spite of repeated posts proving that Curry either didn't understand the BEST research, doesn't understand statistics, or (more likely) was flat out lying, Chris soldiers on, without a single reliable secondary source to back up anything he says. " Uh, Bruce, please give us the post #s where you supposedly proved anything. As opposed to brewster's ad hom bluster there are the shown facts Curry is a climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, and member of the BEST team. And her colleague on the BEST Team, Richard Muller, has been cited: "...he [Muller] admitted it was true that the BEST data suggested that world temperatures have not risen for about 13 years. But in his view, this might not be ‘statistically significant’, although, he added, it was equally possible that it was – a statement which left other scientists mystified." Moreover it has been shown the scientific community does not dismiss her or the BEST data she uses to show well over a decade of no temperature rise despite dramatic rises in CO2. "All these pages, and Chris has learned nothing." I should learn something from someone proven to make things up? Edited by Chris, Nov 14 2011, 07:19 AM.
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