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| Does anyone believe in hell anymore? | |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 20 2009, 01:32 AM Post #31 |
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So, you're Jewish? |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 20 2009, 01:33 AM Post #32 |
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Double post... sorry! Edited by ngc1514, Aug 20 2009, 02:26 AM.
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| Banandangees | Aug 20 2009, 03:02 AM Post #33 |
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What makes you say that? |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 20 2009, 04:36 AM Post #34 |
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In what way do your god specifications NOT fit the Jewish creed? Or Muslim, for that matter? |
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| Banandangees | Aug 20 2009, 07:18 PM Post #35 |
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Or Christian. |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 20 2009, 11:15 PM Post #36 |
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Yep. Ya pays your money and ya takes yer chances. Since we're talking about eternal damnation, sure seems a bit sloppy on god's part to put all those billions and billions of souls at risk on what appears to be some really crappy odds.
Either all those billions and billions are going to rot for eternity in hell or they are not. If they are, forgiveness and mercy are not a couple of words I'd pick to describe this cruel, unfeeling tyrant. If not, then the rest of us have a pretty good shot at heaven without all the kvetching. |
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| Banandangees | Aug 21 2009, 01:37 AM Post #37 |
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'If they are, forgiveness and mercy are not a couple of words I'd pick to describe this cruel, unfeeling tyrant." Then I would continue to "Google" in search of a monotheistic loving God whose love is readily available to overide this same God's wrath... a God where forgiveness is readily available for the seeking, repentent heart. When speaking of a "cruel, unfeeling tyrant" of a God, aren't we projecting our short comings onto this God. We seem to have an internal free will, given by a God or that is inborn if there is no God. We make choices in life with this free will, good or bad, and must know that to do so often meets with good or bad consequences by a God or by others if there is no God. And, I don't know why bad things happen to good people or what it means when that life ends. In that case I would continue to "Google" for a monotheistic, loving and just God. |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 21 2009, 04:00 AM Post #38 |
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So, what's your best guess at the ratio of saved to damned over the last couple thousand years? 99% saved? 1% saved? As you go through life, what ratio might you ascribed to the people around you? |
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| Banandangees | Aug 21 2009, 04:23 AM Post #39 |
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I have no idea. I don't even know what God they "googled," or for sure if the first shall be last or the last first (and that they all get in) or if getting in is harder than a camel passing through the eye of a needle. Or, that getting in is a simple as saying, "I truly believe, forgive me. Very uncertain! It just might be easier to say, "There is no God; eat, drink and be merry; when it's over it's over and put it all out of our minds. But that's not what I can accept. When science is able to show, without doubt, that the cosmos came from nothing, on it's own then maybe I can believe that life is all an accident that ends when it ends. I'll wait for the evidence. |
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| ngc1514 | Aug 21 2009, 08:04 AM Post #40 |
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I'll leave the worry about all that stuff to you, Ban. You seem to get some enjoyment out of it. Just like you, I'm waiting for the evidence. Haven't seen a lick of it yet. |
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