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| the breeze | May 23 2009, 10:25 PM Post #1 |
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| ngc1514 | May 23 2009, 10:33 PM Post #2 |
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breezy continues to cut and paste in tongues...
Pray for editing skills, breezy! |
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| Deleted User | May 24 2009, 12:48 AM Post #3 |
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It might be secret code!![]() "“And evolutionists believe everyone in the world ultimately came from rock.”" Oh, man, no! We came from apes!!!
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| Deleted User | May 24 2009, 01:19 AM Post #4 |
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Answers In Genesis is a hoot. I like that site alot! |
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| ngc1514 | May 24 2009, 01:23 AM Post #5 |
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The only tools the creationists have in their little tool boxes are lies and utter misrepresentations of what science actually says. Creationism has changed from the only accepted weltanschauung (I won't justify it with the title of "theory" for it never was) of a couple centuries ago to a dying world view held by only a small percentage of christians today. The main adherents and proponents lie and they KNOW they lie in a failing attempt to keep the fundamentalist believers believing.
-Joseph Goebbels Replace "state" with religion and it rings true today. Unfortunately for the creationists, they do not hold absolute control over the broadcast and print media nor over the education of the young as did Goebbels did. Telling lies only works when dissent and truth can be suppressed. |
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| Deleted User | May 24 2009, 01:38 AM Post #6 |
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Ah, but the creationism of evangelical fundamentalism is not the old theology. Theology had already become naturalistic. Newton's Laws do not depend on God, though he threw God in at the end. Paley, the father of the ID movement was a proponent of Natural Theology. Darwin was a minister, and reluctant to present his theory which combined ideas prevalent at the time. No, the creationism of today arose after Darwin had already won the day, under the militancy of Huxley and others, and is just as much in reaction of German high criticism of the Bible. No where in Christianity do you see prior to The Fundamentals an insistence of biblical literalness and inerrancy. It is a newcomer. Yes, on their narrow view they are what has always been, but that is a result of tunnel vision. |
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| ngc1514 | May 24 2009, 03:58 AM Post #7 |
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From the Wiki article on Allegorical Interpretations of Genesis. Augustine wrote:
From http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1998/9803fea3.asp
And, so, the Roman church accepts evolution and Big Bang cosmology. Fifth century Augustine understood the allegorical nature of Genesis. Perhaps our resident creationist would be better served reading him than those loony websites he embraces. |
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| Deleted User | May 24 2009, 04:07 AM Post #8 |
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Breeze wouldn't know who Augustine is. But even Mike rejects great thinkers like Augustine and Aquinas. They, following, Paul, kept adding Greek and Roman influences into Christianity. I really want to engage in research on the origins of Christian thought. Undeniably it is an important influence in Western thought, but where did it's ideas come from? |
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