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| Mike | May 20 2009, 03:39 AM Post #11 |
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No that doesn't make sense at all Chris. it is not reasonable to assume anything about God other than what he has already told you. I think you keep trying to hold God to some form of physical standards or laws. He is beyond all limitations. Chaotic Universe? Well if you mean that by God working within the universe that this causes chaos, I disagree. You assumption should be that God's hand controls the universe and at times it appears to have some natural order to it. But as we can witness through His miracles, natural order is an illusion on our part. Let's take the example of time for instance. We use the terms hours, minutes, seconds, years etc and imply they represent a constant. But they don't. Time is subject to distortion. |
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| Deleted User | May 20 2009, 03:48 AM Post #12 |
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"it is not reasonable to assume anything about God other than what he has already told you." He hasn't told us anything, for one, and for another it is a reasonable conclusion. Your job is to show it, my inference, is unreasonable, not merely say it is. "I think you keep trying to hold God to some form of physical standards or laws." To His laws. If He exists and He created everything, then He created natural law(s). "He is beyond all limitations." That's a limitation. "Chaotic Universe? Well if you mean that by God working within the universe that this causes chaos, I disagree." No, a miracle is a violation of the laws of physics, nature, thus it would be God working outside His own laws. That, behaving on whim, without law, would be chaotic. "But as we can witness through His miracles, natural order is an illusion on our part." So God created nature to deceive us? "Time is subject to distortion." And that has to do with the price of turnips what? |
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| ngc1514 | May 20 2009, 10:17 PM Post #13 |
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A miracle? Every copy of the Book of Mormon has signed and sworn testimony from 11 witnesses that the golden plates existed.
Is this sufficient evidence to prove the Book of Mormon is true? If not, why not? And, if not, why is this less evidentiary than the accounts supporting your 17th century "miracle?" |
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