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disproving the doubtersite
Topic Started: May 13 2009, 09:26 PM (492 Views)
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Disproving the Doubtersbsite
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:00 PM

Joshua 10:10-11: "So the LORD routed them before Israel, killed them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, chased them along the road that goes to Beth Horon, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah."


Modern criticism of the Bible began in the late 1700s and has continued to this day. The usual claim, often from Bible scholars, has been that the Bible is nothing more than error-filled human writings. Before serious excavation work had begun in the mid-1800s, scholars felt free to consider lack of evidence as proof that people, cities, and even whole nations mentioned in the Bible never existed. It didn't seem to matter to them that they had never even bothered to look for the evidence.



Soon, biblical archaeology started finding the evidences. And with each discovery, the critics' pronouncements about errors in the Bible began to crumble. One example is the biblical record of Joshua's leadership of Israel in occupying the promised land. Joshua 10:10-11 reports how Joshua defeated Hazor, burning the city to the ground. All this had been dismissed by the doubters, but then archaeologists found the ruins of Hazor. The ruins clearly showed destruction by an intense fire. The fire had been so hot that adobe had been baked lobster red, stones had been changed by the heat of the fire, and the ashes of the city were five feet deep!



Every claim that there is error in the Bible has been based upon lack of knowledge. Let's face it, no matter what the subject, including history, God has more knowledge than we do!

Prayer: Dear heavenly Father, I thank You for Your Word which has been preserved for our instruction today. Guide me by Your Holy Spirit to make good use of Your Word in my daily life. In Jesus' Name. Amen.


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What's a "Doubtersbsite"???

"The usual claim, often from Bible scholars, has been that the Bible is nothing more than error-filled human writings."

Straw man. The usual claim is the Bible, like any human endeavor, has errors. Not the same as "error-filled".

"Every claim that there is error in the Bible has been based upon lack of knowledge."

Well, you, or your pastey author, have a lot of proving to do.
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Every claim that there is error in the Bible has been based upon lack of knowledge. Let's face it, no matter what the subject, including history, God has more knowledge than we do!


And the evidence you put forth to support this rather extraordinary claim is...?
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Having eaten of the tree of knowledge, Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...."

Morality for immortality, good trade, or not?

Anyway, if God exists, he must be reasonable. Breeze even agreed with that at one point, before he was persuaded to set his hooks and the troll in him came out and he went into a pasting frenzy that still continues.
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But his pasting frenzy provides the opportunity to show why all the science, most of the history and all the claims about biblical inerrency are flat out wrong. It's not the initial posting that makes an impression, but his initial posting and then running away when the inaccuracies are pointed out.

How serious can this stuff be if he's not interested in supporting it?

It provides the basis for a great series of responses showing what science has really discovered and how totally without support creation "science" is.

We should be thankful.
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Well, you see, his friend Jackie, the one who told him not to talk to me anymore, comes around once in a blue moon to say he's winning. See, that's what it's all about. Winning what? Dunno. Guinness Book of World Records for most pastes on a forum!
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I think I saw one of those Jackie posts. It was really amusing because Jackie obviously DOESN'T read all this crap breezy posts nor does he feel it necessary to defend it any more than breezy does.

I really think breezy would make more of an impact knocking on doors with copies of "The Watchtower" to pass out. A positive impact that is since the only impact he's making here is a negative one.
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He used to do that.
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Disproving the Doubtersbsite
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:00 PM

Joshua 10:10-11: "So the LORD routed them before Israel, killed them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, chased them along the road that goes to Beth Horon, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah."


Modern criticism of the Bible began in the late 1700s and has continued to this day. The usual claim, often from Bible scholars, has been that the Bible is nothing more than error-filled human writings. Before serious excavation work had begun in the mid-1800s, scholars felt free to consider lack of evidence as proof that people, cities, and even whole nations mentioned in the Bible never existed. It didn't seem to matter to them that they had never even bothered to look for the evidence.



Soon, biblical archaeology started finding the evidences. And with each discovery, the critics' pronouncements about errors in the Bible began to crumble. One example is the biblical record of Joshua's leadership of Israel in occupying the promised land. Joshua 10:10-11 reports how Joshua defeated Hazor, burning the city to the ground. All this had been dismissed by the doubters, but then archaeologists found the ruins of Hazor. The ruins clearly showed destruction by an intense fire. The fire had been so hot that adobe had been baked lobster red, stones had been changed by the heat of the fire, and the ashes of the city were five feet deep!



Every claim that there is error in the Bible has been based upon lack of knowledge. Let's face it, no matter what the subject, including history, God has more knowledge than we do!

Prayer: Dear heavenly Father, I thank You for Your Word which has been preserved for our instruction today. Guide me by Your Holy Spirit to make good use of Your Word in my daily life. In Jesus' Name. Amen.


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Job 15:8: "Have you heard the counsel of God? Do you limit wisdom to yourself?"


Hydraulics are part of our everyday lives. Fluids -- such as the brake fluid used in your car -- cannot be compressed, so when you step on the brake pedal that fluid can be forced from a cylinder into the braking mechanisms attached to your wheels. All hydraulic machines work in a similar way because the fluid used will flow easily to areas where there is less pressure.



Our Creator made great use of hydraulic principles in many of His creations. We have rigid bones and use fluid to expand and contract our muscles to bend and then stretch our legs. But the spider, for example, does not have a rigid skeleton, so it uses muscles to bend its legs, then pumps fluid into its leg to straighten it out.



The North American Dwarf mistletoe builds up hydraulic pressure equal to that found in a truck tire in order to catapult its seeds out to a distance of almost 50 feet at a speed close to 60 miles per hour. The squirting cucumber found in the Mediterranean area uses the same principle to propel its seeds up to forty feet.



Unless you think that the brake system in your car came together by chance and natural forces, it doesn't make any sense to believe that spiders and other plants and animals came about without a Designer and Creator.

Prayer: Dear Lord, I am constantly amazed at the technical excellence of Your creation. I ask that more scientists would also be amazed and draw the natural conclusion that You are God. From this realization, help them to be open to hearing what You have done for them and all of us through Your Son, Jesus Christ. In His Name. Amen.


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You KNOW a religion can't be very good if it's necessary to sell it door to door!

Mormons and Witnesses...

At least the Scientology people don't come to your door, but just bug you if you pass one of their "Technology Centers."
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