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Pet Changes; We want to know what YOU think
Topic Started: Mar 5 2015, 04:36 AM (1,045 Views)
Fumus
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I think a pet/companion/the-subject-in-question could and should be able to be anything as long as it's not a full-blown other human that could pass off as an average full-human PC, if that makes sense. Make it as humanoid as possible though, sure that's fine, but if it's like... If it's like how you'd RP as twins but without the restrictions put on twins, then nnnnnn. If that makes sense.
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THE Cat
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SSS+ Class Pet.

I think option 3 is fine, and don't know why this would be an issue to begin with. I mean, in my case I wanted Miguel to have a butler that could walk around with him without it being labeled as 'Hax' cuz I never bought him. Buying him as a pet would have made it possible to use him in those big types of events like Ragnarok and whatnot, and he would have leveled up just like any type of pet. As someone prior to me mentioned in this topic (in his own separate words), having a human as a pet would serve as nothing more then flare.

In short, I am 100% with option 3 (2 technically). The title we can give the human 'pets' could be different, so people don't imagine a male or female on a leash everytime they're making a human pet.
Edited by THE Cat, Mar 7 2015, 12:04 AM.
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Lightning
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For the love of god, if they are going to be allowed but be restricted then don't do the S rank only thing as suggested. Having money to burn shouldn't mean shit to do with something species. Overall, I see humanoid things as whatever and I personally don't care about human pets. But, now that the chance for change is here I will say this;

It is kinda weird that you 'buy' a human, or that they are your 'pet'. If you want them around a lot in threads then have them be a recurrent NPC.
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LibertyGear
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If the problem here is that having humans 'pets' is weird, I would vote to change the name from pets to companions in the first place.

If this affect only future pets, im ok(ish) with either option but dont see the point on this change.

But yeah, I will have to go with option 3 since I have a human 'pet' myself. Hell, if im no longer allowed to have her as a human pet, I might as well harvest the character all together since she is part of the reason i made him in the first place (if you have rped with Nolan and Sita you will know how important she is both IC and OOC).

And before someone suggests me to change my magic to summon so I can keep her let me tell you something about my char first. Nolan is an ass. As in, he will stab you if he so much as thinks it will be fun to watch you bleed. But he is a protective ass when it comes to his sister, since she can die. I can tell you right away, that if I turn her into a summon, which can be resummoned after death, he will kill her just to spite her.

PS: sorry if i sound (look?) pissed off, its just that this rule can hit me hard.
Edited by LibertyGear, Mar 7 2015, 10:14 AM.
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Tenken
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Hoennese and proud!

I don't know how you even got a full human approved as a pet in the first place but it's hardly hard to, say, make Sita a clear non-human through some magical reason, especially since magical changes via history is a lot looser with pets.
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LibertyGear
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Technically she is half demon, but no thats not hard, and I could but for what you said in its not about just being human, is being human/humanoid in look as well, and the limit of size on option 2 is... well lets just say I dont want Sita turning into a horned midget :P

Although, if you increase that limit to 5/6 feet, then im ok with option 2 :)
Edited by LibertyGear, Mar 7 2015, 02:40 PM.
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Tenken
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Hoennese and proud!

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Gale
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I voted for Opt 3, partially because having a human "pet"/"companion" thing is in the "future shit" folder.

And mostly because I feel that having another person, as in, a human, or otherwise something that's pretty much human, or even just looks pretty much human, is very, very handy for character development and all that jazz. Sure, I could write up an NPC and then insert him/her/it into threads at times, but that limits what I can do, and how often I can do it.

I mean, sure, having your sentient dog as a companion could be pretty swell. Hanging around your permanent magical unicorn is probably pretty awesome. Getting into ridiculous shit of magical nature with your fae friend feels fantastic. But in the end, I feel that, with the PC's being limited to being, at the very least, half-human, having a permanent humanoid companion under your full control at pretty much any time that works should be pretty damned neat for character development and plot progression.

TL;DR I have plans that may never happen, and then character development stuff.

Also, if the notion of having a human "Pet" is bothering people, why can't we just call all of them Companions?
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Zen
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Mar 7 2015, 02:45 PM
And mostly because I feel that having another person, as in, a human, or otherwise something that's pretty much human, or even just looks pretty much human, is very, very handy for character development and all that jazz. Sure, I could write up an NPC and then insert him/her/it into threads at times, but that limits what I can do, and how often I can do it.

(...)

Also, if the notion of having a human "Pet" is bothering people, why can't we just call all of them Companions?
I feel like Gale is hitting the nail on the head here. Saying "oh just make an NPC" doesn't allow you to take said NPC on missions or event topics, maybe not even arcs depending on who's running them. Pet is, as I quote from the rules, defined as:

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Pet: Pet is the rules term we use, but it doesn't have to (and usually doesn't) imply a literal pet, and companion was very nearly the term we used instead (but instead was used as a term for the weakest of Pets, see below). A Pet is simply any creature that follows your character around and helps them, that out of character is acquired with jewels instead of your character having a specific magic.


It's just the term, a word with no more meaning than Dragon Slayer. A title, not something that defines their nature. Dragon Slayers have zero chance of tackling a dragon, and pets are no more subservient or pet-like than the players themselves decide they are.

Why allow humanoid pets but not actually human ones? That way, you can literally make a 100% human-seeming pet, personality and all, even without magic, and say they're a "Schlorpenwalb", a magical creature you came up with that is indistinguishable from humans. It would be a needless and foolish limitation. What's so bad about having a 100% human creature as a pet when it's completely legal to have other, equally-sentient, equally-intelligent, equally-advanced races as pets?
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Mazohyst
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Stay the course.

Changing what they are called barely matters. You can call them a Pet, a Companion, or a Dinglehopper. At the end of the day, the issue that is being debated is whether or not a Dinglehopper can be a full human. An argument of semantics seems kind of irrelevant here.
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