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Quatro Cerberus Members, Attention Please
Topic Started: Aug 29 2012, 01:00 PM (2,831 Views)
Daveclap
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So you're trying to turn a guild that was a badass mercenary guild into a lovey-dovey "let's help everyone! go nakama desssuuuuuuu" mercenary guild.

Sure, we may be officially a light guild and we have to act like the good guys but nowhere in here do I see any neutral aspects at all.

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Give yourself to the people. Even if it not a job, if you see a problem, as a Cerberus it is your duty to solve it or help solving it.


That's not what a mercenary does. In fact, he sacrifices any shred of morality he has to make a quick buck.

You claim you're trying to expand and inflate the mercenary aspect of the guild, but here, you're absolutely butchering it. This is not a guild I intend to stay in if this ever goes through.
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Jossle
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Swordsman & Swordsmith as One!

Henceforth and effecitve as of now: There will be a 1 idea fee for bitching and/or whining

Edited by Jossle, Aug 30 2012, 12:08 AM.
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Dran
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SO when is the party?
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Tenken
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Hoennese and proud!

Daveclap
Aug 29 2012, 11:54 PM
So you're trying to turn a guild that was a badass mercenary guild into a lovey-dovey "let's help everyone! go nakama desssuuuuuuu" mercenary guild.

Sure, we may be officially a light guild and we have to act like the good guys but nowhere in here do I see any neutral aspects at all.

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Give yourself to the people. Even if it not a job, if you see a problem, as a Cerberus it is your duty to solve it or help solving it.


That's not what a mercenary does. In fact, he sacrifices any shred of morality he has to make a quick buck.

You claim you're trying to expand and inflate the mercenary aspect of the guild, but here, you're absolutely butchering it. This is not a guild I intend to stay in if this ever goes through.
I'm not in QC but I can still say:
Dave is right, goddamn it.
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Snow
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Dark Lorde of the Sith

I'm in QC as the Ice Dragon Slayer so ... Rawr, and stuff, and I may be focused on 'strength' but I can still freeze someone's face off and cause a shit storm of a hail storm.

Anyway main point is I agree with Dave for what he pointed out, although I'm not entirely against what Braver said as there are a few of his ideas I do agree with.

If anything, QC should be more about Bounty Hunters not Mercenaries, "But what's the difference?" Glad you asked.

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Bounty Hunter - "A bounty hunter captures fugitives for a monetary reward (bounty)."

Mercenary - "A mercenary is a person who takes part in an armed conflict, who is not a national or a party to the conflict, and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party"."


Bounty Hunter description is pretty short yes, but I'm sure everyone has seen/read/whatever in a movie/tv show that has Bounty Hunters, think Star Wars Bounty Hunters (minus the droids cause that's just stupid, I mean seriously Droid Bounty Hunters - stab them with an electric pike and it's GG)

Simply put, Bounty Hunters do what they want, when they want and still get money they can kill or capture alive whereas Mercenaries they have rules, they can't just go 'OH HI MARK' instead they get recruited like conscripts and then get orders.

Now, how does one go about using Bounty Hunters as the 'QC Theme'.

Snow vs Bravers Ideas


Another note, "Believe in your own judgement. You have a mind, use it and carve your own path. Never let other dictate or paint your decisions with their believes." Do you not think this is well rather void? The Guild Master will outrank you and tell you to get your shit together, to do this or to do that and hell he/she may even bust your skull if you don't do what he/she asks.

I though Yovel was going to do this anyway? Ah well, there's my current input.
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Yovel
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While I have defected QC in order to focus on my magic prowress due to IC history and all. Yeah I'm more leaning to Snow's idea about how QC should be like. It should be a guild on the border between light and dark and just stays on the light side for adminstrative stuff.
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Jossle
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hm, okay, so we are agreed that most of us want to stay in the somewhat the same vein as before...kind of disappointing but i can work with it.

Now let's see if i can modify this for the whole concept of 'i give no shit about anything but X and look cool while i do Y'...

Quatro Ceberus
Got a problem? Cerberus gets it done.
Be it either by making a new gadget or putting a bullet trough the head of someone.
It makes no difference to us.

-The Quatro Ideology

As one of the oldest guild in the country although not as old as their anti-thesis, Lamia Scale, Quatro Cerberus is a guild for those with no nonsense attitude and subscribe to the philosophy of using magic as a tool, rather than a gift that makes them superior to others or some arcane mystery that needs to be solve.

Focusing on applied magic research rather than wasting resources in theorical researches about magic and using the research to clean fiore of it's nastiest criminals that other guilds can't touch without dealing with a ton of red tape from the magic council. The reason for this the fact that Quatro Cerberus is not a official guild but an independent back with full military endorsement since it was establish by former rune knights and magic researchers who grew disappointed with the bureaucracy of the magic council and the stagnation of applied magical research in recent years. Because of it origins, QC is the only guild that responds only to the authority of the Fioran military, explaining the close ties between the knights of fiore and the guild along with the guild placing great emphasis on martial discipline and honor, marking them with a tradition of being a mercenary group famed for their motto:

-"You stir it, we deal with it. No Question asked"-

When it comes to the job preferences, Quatro Cerberus is know for its pragmatic views on it, as they believe in helping all people regardless of their affiliation or past so they get jobs that would often be going to a dark guild but never anything outright criminal, but jobs that would normally pass as underhanded and morally ambiguous but never illegal


Guild Objectives & Ideals
  • The first is create and train a highly capable task force capable of dealing with whatever problem is presented to them with machine-like precision and surgical cleanness, for a reasonable price that is.

  • The second is to use the experience of their task force then develop new magics and technologies for every day use and sell them to the public, at reasonable prices, to fund their guild operations.



Because of these objectives and the militarist mentality of the guild as whole, it puts a particular effort in recruiting mages who have peculiar magics or skilled individuals but QC is not in any way elitist and firmly believes that all who wish to be among the ranks may join and will be more than welcome as long as they are willing to uphold the ideals of the guild.


  • Never abandon your comrades and always support them, for they will watch your back and keep you safe in the battlefields.

  • Be practical and self-made above all. if it a problem that can be solved with just wits, do it with wits instead of wasting magic power.

  • We respond exclusively to the Fioran Military, no else. Any mage not bearing our crest is to be treated as observer at best and a spy at worse, never as an authority.

  • Keep an open mind but a firm resolve. Always go on your duties willing to learn something new but never must you forget your ideals.

  • Always be willing to share any new toys you might find during missions or obtained on your own.

  • Never be at anything but your absolute best. What you are represents us a whole

  • Whatever your job is, remember: Be polite, be efficient and have at least 5 plans to deal with any eventuality. We only accept success, capture or death...not excuses!

  • You shall punch in the face anyone who dare mock our guild by calling it 'Quatro Puppy." No Exceptions.
Edited by Jossle, Aug 30 2012, 04:11 PM.
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Dycho
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I know I just recently rejoined but I do want to join qc after reading stuff. I like the neutral aspect and even more weather its mercenary or bounty hunters it'll be cool to join such a guild. I'm also glad to see my old friend and brother in arms Braver not only throwing in his ideas on how to make the guild better (in his opinion despite it seems that a lot of people also there should be some added changes) but also changing the info he put to match the responses of those who want to express their ideas to the guild they love or want to join...to even what sounds like a good idea.

I however have no comment, just stating that I'm looking forward to the final draft.

Why? Because the final rule about qc being called quatro puppies is hilarious
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Ghost6442
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Embrace Madness! It wants hugs...
I'm most ok with Bravers recent rewording thingy.

He is much better with words then I.
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Dylan
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We are the best at we do and what we do is making the world a better place.


Is it just me, or is that sentence a bit out of whack? "We are the best at we do"
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