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Sex Before Marriage - Yes or No
Topic Started: Jan 29 2010, 12:42 PM (6,837 Views)
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Hoennese and proud!

Carbon dating is extremely accurate actually, and considering the literal age of the Earth and the means that life was created here a good deal of Genesis and the early parts of the Old Testament (if not all of it) are completely and utterly falsified and proven incorrect.

Further, you are basing all of your arguments around a book and that is fine, however I posit to you that while you believe it to be the word of God that was handed down through man that man will have put their own interpretations on things, especially around areas they personally did not like.

So, since that is the case, how can you say that sex before marriage is wrong without basing your argument off of a biased opinion from another person?
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By the way, depraved and raunchy sex is all through the Bible and God seems fine with it 9 times out of 10; see the following:

Genesis 6:4
Genesis 19: 30-36
Genesis 29: 21-28 (also Megillah 13b)
Genesis 38: 15-16
Judah 38: 8-10
Solomon's Song - 1:13, 2:6, 4:5, 4:16, 7:7-8, 8:10

For anyone else, check here
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Edited by THEPUNK101, Aug 28 2011, 09:24 PM.
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I cant disprove the bible same way u cant disprove we are in the matrix or that I have a pink elephant, asking for something to be disproved does not mean that it is true...
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Edited by THEPUNK101, Aug 28 2011, 09:25 PM.
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Even if I checked Wikipedia (unreliable source) I still wouldn't understand it so I can't comment on it. If you're not Hindu or Muslim then you won't put up a good argument for a Hindu or Muslim *wishes there was more diversity on this forum*. You actually didn't disagree with me so I'll assume you agree with me.

I have to explicitly STATE that I disagree with you on every single point or be considered to agree with you? I call bullcrap. And as I said first in my post you went on a tangent on the not-SO-significant parts and ignored the real question. Nice. Again:

What makes the "Matrix" idea more abstract than the "God" idea?

Oh. I disagree.


Proof that they have a soul. I'm saying according to an atheist belief they shouldn't care at all because it doesn't affect them.

No. Proof that they are not douchebags. Shouldn't atheists be better off saying what they believe than you by the way?

Oh. I disagree.


They are neither better off or worse off; They both rejected God and his love for them. Personally I like a Muslim better because at least they have a reason for what they do even though it is a works based faith. (Did you know Christianity is the only Grace based faith)
Romans 1:20 (New International Version)

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.


Fine, that cleared up some things for me, thanks. So where do you draw the line between people "who have a reason for what they do" and not? Hindu? Scientology? Jehova's witnesses? All cool polytheisms of the old age? Or is it all cool as long as they believe in SOMETHING that isn't humans?

Oh. I disagree.

The Qu'ran is not non-fiction. It contradicts itself so many times and there is only one writer Mohammed which makes me think Mohammed wasn't very linguistic. Also you didn't disagree with me.

What puts you in position who is right or not? I guess a Muslim would say the same about your book. I could dig up a link for biblical contradictions very easily here, but you'd just ignore it.

And yeah. I TOTALLY disagree.


People using the Bible to shun homosexuals are misinterpreting the Bible, God loves gay people as much as any other sinner. It says Homosexuality is a sin JUST LIKE LYING OR GOSSIP OR ANY OTHER SIN. I have to admit the church hasn't handled this issue very well.

What makes your interpretation right? You might have gotten the parts about sex before marriage wrong for all you know?

Oh. I disagree.

We do choose sin and death but you choose to ignore that.

We're going in circles here. Moving along.

Oh. I disagree.


If something is true whether I believe it or not doesn't matter. If it is my belief I believe it is true (refer to dictionary)

And in my beliefs of truth there is no god. It's true whether or not you believe it.

Oh. I disagree.

Open your heart means be willing to understand or accept Jesus

Which is different to believing in Jesus exactly HOW?

Oh. I disagree.


Hey i complemented you at the beginning by saying you were cool. You can at least complement or say hi to me too.

Oh yes I totally can.

You've been saying that peoples lives are pointless without "god", then surely words would be even more insignificant?
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You're clearly not a theistic creationist Stray as those people take most of the messages in the Bible as non-literal events but as moral lessons and ideas. I have friends of thise persuasion you see.

As for it being proven wrong, yes, yes it has based on creationism since evolution is not so much a theory as a proven, solidly scientific fact. Plus there's the age old question: Dinosaurs + Bible = ...nowhere.

BUT ABOVE ALL WE'RE DRIFTING OFF TOPIC SO:

-Straykey thinks sex before marriage is wrong due to Bible verses.
-Nobody believes him for several reasons.
-Sex is awesome.
-Saying people who have sex before marriage have empty lives is totally uncool in pretty much every single damn way.
-Nobody is changing anyone's minds here and now.

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We all need to think about something for a second... it can be anything.
Edited by THEPUNK101, Jun 27 2012, 08:41 PM.
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lol tell the truth...

is it bad of me that I found that funny?
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