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Gay Marriage - Yes or No
Topic Started: Jan 29 2010, 12:40 PM (8,598 Views)
linkrulesx10
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sorry to say i cant understand your position on this XD

if you can provide any evidence apart from a quote from a book that backs up your statement that it is immoral I will consider it but many studies have shown that homosexuals are not disadvantaged, in fact they are smarter on average, limited studies show they make just as good parents as straight parents or even more so as they have to really want a child to get one and to say its immoral how do you define that apart from the fact a book says so.
Edited by linkrulesx10, May 13 2011, 12:22 PM.
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OK THAT IS IT!
My parents both deeply believe in God. My mother performs abortions and contraception because she believes that no woman should have to raise a child they don't want, or can't provide for, and no child should go unwanted. Also especially for teenagers, pregnancy and birth are DANGEROUS!!!
Condoms prevent STI's and hormonal contraceptives are useful in preventing crippling period pain (yes it is that bad for some). Not to mention unwanted pregnancy. I SERIOUSLY question your sanity if you think that people should abstain until after marriage in a society where people reach puberty at younger ages, and get married later in life. Sex is one of the five STRONGEST drives in a human being and telling people to abstain just won't work. Face reality.
My brother identifies as gay and has a boyfriend, my parents are fully accepting of them and their relationship.
Myself and my boyfriend have been having sex using contraception for over 2 years, my parents are fine with it. My mum even gave me contraception that has prevented pregnancy, acne AND the above mentioned crippling period pain. Our union in sex is NO LESS LOVING OR MEANINGFUL than a union of those who are married. We have been together for over 4 years.
AND to top it off, the Bible has NEVER had a law against abortion, IN FACT a ritual abortion was performed once in it. READ THE BIBLE BEFORE YOU USE IT IN YOUR ARGUMENTS!! NO PICKING AND CHOOSING LAWS!!!
If a man rapes a woman, is his only punishment to pay money to her father?
Is ones partner not being a virgin before marriage REALLY a legitimate reason for divorce?
Is a woman really unclean every time she has a PERIOD?
Is a woman truly subject to her husband?

There is a difference between being a true man/woman of god, and just parading the Bible's rules. My family are good people, and if there is truly a benevolent God, he will love them as his children. Do you truly believe that God WANTS his children to feel guilty, dejected, repressed and unable to be themselves? Because if God really does want that, then i would rather spend my afterlife in hell than with him. However i do believe that God is benevolent and loving, and loves us all as his own, and wants us to be happy and fulfilled in life, and is filled with sorrow when we hurt each other, whether it be through repression, words, violence, war, neglect or any other way.
Edited by Dragonmimi, May 13 2011, 12:31 PM.
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Edited by THEPUNK101, Aug 28 2011, 09:19 PM.
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that's great
Edited by THEPUNK101, Jun 27 2012, 08:34 PM.
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The Bible has never been and never was God's word. It was the basis for the way of life for the Jews. THE BIBLE HAS NEVER STATED IT WAS THE WORD OF GOD.
It said that Jesus was the word of god. READ THE BIBLE.
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Ok but the eiffal tower before it as a tower was ore that was then refined and made into something.

if we are to believe in a god like that he created everything from nothing which means that anaolgy does nto work in the slightest.

and please give evidence for your statement that it is 100% accurate as you have not given anything just said that it is. And please do not bring the world is being controlled by god I asked for what is immoral. Something is immoral in my opinion if the action ultimately hurts people, that is something that we could agree on whether or not we agree on the existence of a god but I cannot agree on you as I do not feel that we are controlled by god.

now I have to ask this and don't take it the wrong way but are you a troll or do you seriously believe that, i need to know what I am dealing with.

But if what you say is true and we ASSSUME *not i do disagree* that the bible is true and it is immoral there should be real world evidence, example we say jesus was born at 0AD with the bible and best historians rate it and 4BC so pretty close, and it can even explain the star the shephards follow with astrological data. So what real world examples can show us that god is immoral that is NOT written in the bible but is instead something we can observe in our world.
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*rolls eyes* You're just using the Bible as an excuse to be extremely crappy to other people and parade your own personal beliefs.
believe me THIS IS NOTHING NEW!!!
Muslim terrorists?
The KKK?
Do you seriously believe these people are doing the work of God because they say so?
No, i didn't think so.
By the way, unless you come up with a better argument, perhaps you need to do some soul-searching. If you have truly found god, you wouldn't parade these laws around. If you believe that God is Love, and God loves unconditionally, then he loves all, and he does not care what gender, color, sexuality or lifestyle is.
I do not believe you have found god.
I don't think that YOU believe you have either, else you would not need to constantly push you faux beliefs on others.
"Me Thinks thou protest too much." - Shakespere.
Are you perhaps 'guilty' of these things that you are so against?
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Dragonmimi got my thoughts down, so I'll just make fun of your arguments, Straykey, if you don't mind.

"Listen Homosexuality is wrong because God's way is right and he said to be so."

What says that none of the other religions are the right ones? Why are the other major (and minor for the hell of it) religions, belief systems, and cults so easily dismissed?

"I define this world as being controlled by God Almighty the reason being it that too much stuff points to there being a God"

"Too much stuff." Great, now we know.

Do you look at the Eiffle Tower and say it came by chance? No, we see a pattern and reason there must be a creator. We see the same pattern in this world in DNA and Biology in simple human thoughts

We don't reason there must be a creator of the eiffel tower, we know it. Same patterns as what?

"I define the Bible as being God's holy word because of though it has 40 writers it flows perfectly"

Kind of a redundant argument at a site in which hundreds of people gather to create a story together, don't you think?
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Tenken
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Hoennese and proud!

Please everyone let's not all flame, there's a very simple argument why it should be allowable ok?

Not all marriages are religious.

I'm sure it's been mentioned before, heck I even mentioned it before myself, but the point is that civil unions exist in nearly every country in the world. Personally I wont be having a religious ceremony if I get married, I will be having a civil one. Now, is there any reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to be married in this context at least?

No, no there's not.

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Edited by THEPUNK101, Aug 15 2011, 07:26 PM.
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