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Gay Marriage - Yes or No
Topic Started: Jan 29 2010, 12:40 PM (8,591 Views)
Drame
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actually a fair point you made magde, i will say its mostly comming from me being bad at formulating myself. I tried to do my best at explaining in the other thread you made (which is a pretty good one for a debate since theres room for people having different oppinions :).

basically (to put it into this thread as well): i meant basic respect for everyone, needed to keep the world spinning so to say. But beyond normal respect thats 'to be earned' friendship, loyalty, helpfullness these are qualities that grows respect between 2 induviduals (as i see it).
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Tenken
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Hoennese and proud!

Well getting back on topic (*glare at Drame*)

Taking matters of Christian marriages out of the question which, as has been stated repeatedly, isn't happening, does anyone have anything against civil marriages for same-sex couples?

There's nothing offensive in there for people unless you really are prejudiced if we take all question of religion out of the picture which I don't think most same-sex couples would want to be ingratiated with considering how badly it's handled in those situations.
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Chaos Demon
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I don't see any clear reason why not to allow it, If two people really love it each other and want to show it by the way of marriage. Then why not?
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Rogue10205
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I don't seem why people would care if they do or not. Nobody is going to force strait people to get maried to the same sex. So i don't see why people are against it and there for care.
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TheFallenGod
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Before reading this article, I thought gay marriage was wrong. Then, now since I have saw this article, yeah why shouldn't you allow it? If two people of the same gender are happy with each other, why bother them? It's not like your going to become gay right?
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Cloud
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Who you calling chocobo head...

Heh, if it changed the mind of one person, made all those pages of near senseless arguing completely worth it.

EDIT: Oh? It seems Stray, or Punk now...edited out all his posts, shame.
Edited by Cloud, Sep 26 2011, 01:39 AM.
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Luffy1045
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Let the flan flow through you.
I am against gay marriage for the religious aspect. The gay community has been in trouble with the Church forever and now they step unto the marriage field, saying it's their right. You know that the Church would never accept it, you know that in the Bible it does condamn it, why would you do that? You are ASKING to be mistreated.

I don't care whether you have a civil union, a governmental marriage or whatever Ten said. But do not ask to be wed with a priest or a pastor to give you a blessing. That is an insult.

P.S.: I am Christian, and I don't care whether you are gay or whatever. It's your business with yourself and God, and I have no right to mistreat you. You are human after all.
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Cloud
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Who you calling chocobo head...

Okay...did you read the thread? A massive point that Tenken and myself have made is that marriage is NOT the preview of the church. For many years and in many cultures marriage was never religious, marriage being religious is a relatively new construct, as such it is a basic human right regardless of religion or sexuality. What's next, agnostics can't get married?

So yes, you can take your priests and get lost; I'll get a true traditional wedding in a park with a government official. 500m away from the nearest church. On a Mon-Thru. And I'll make sure it's absolutely fabulous. :P

Why is it Christians assume we are asking for marriage with a Christian priest, or that a Christian marriage is the only way to get married? India and Japan, to name only a few examples, would like a talk with you.
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DefyingGravity
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I can almost see people pointing pitchforks at me--I am Christian, but please don't get me wrong, I support gay marriage 100%. Two of my best friends are gay and in love with each other and I have no problems with it at all.

I honestly don't understand why gay marriage is such a big issue. I mean, if threesomes and polygamy--both of which are sick and show lack of committment--are legal in some parts of the world, I don't see what's wrong with homosexuals being allowed to marry. Also, marriage shouldn't be viewed as something religious. Marriage is a legal bond and I don't believe the law in any country states that two people of the same gender cannot love each other.
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Cloud
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Who you calling chocobo head...

...Ignoring the notes on threesomes and polygamy (threesomes to me imply it's just random sex, so, whatever rocks peoples boats, polygamy...is not something I would say I support per say, however it's not something I'm against either, assuming all members involved actually agreed [so you know, not some rich 80yr old man having 7 wives because he can].) I don't want to get a pitchfork; I want to glomp and hug you tightly for being awesome. Despite how I may come across at times, I have no problems with spiritual people. (Though against institutions like the Catholic Church [the institute, not the concept of the religion], well...)
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