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Mike Brown FBI Report; Black Lives Matters, what say you??
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Ronroyce

reddgirl64
May 17 2016, 12:46 PM
Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 12:25 PM
reddgirl64
May 17 2016, 11:11 AM
Doctor Magnus Warlock
May 17 2016, 10:59 AM
Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 02:07 AM
Doctor Magnus Warlock
May 16 2016, 05:33 PM
Not every instance of an officer involved shooting of a black male is racially motivated.

The insistence of making every case an instance of racism distracts from real instances of racially-motivated police brutality.

Some of these cases clearly show one party being non-compliant/over-aggressive with the police.
Again.. Non-Compliance/Over-Agressive are NOT grounds to get executed or shot at..

And WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT HAVING TO BE EVERY INSTANCE... NO ONE makes it or made it about every instance..

When a guy is unarmed, and gets shot dead, Obvious protocols were not followed... A Cop is ALSO trained to call for back up in order to apprehend a perp and to ONLY shoot if the perp is endandering the lives of others or the officer's own lives.. (But that seems to be lost on u) as u see non-compliance and being over-aggressive as grounds to get shot.. No sir... That's NOT what cops are trained to do..


And lastly, if it happens enough times to show a trend,(which, it does) then it needs to be an issue that has to be dealt with...

How can u ignore the many VIDEO tape incidences of people getting shot and killed unjustly by cops??


This was an instance where the person murdered was overly aggressive towards a cop.

Had Brown not stole from the store, the cops would not have been called.

Had Brown peacefully complied with Wilson, he would not have been shot.

Furthermore, I don't need to comment on every video taped incident.
The issue is, people like Ron don't take into consideration, what the person was doing, that lead to their death. They say, well so what, he committed a crime, let him go, so that criminals like this, continue to make the neighborhoods crime infested.

Mike beat the officer at his truck, ran, and turned around to come back at the officer. What do you think, Mike was going to do, once he got to the officer? Shake his hand? Get on the ground, and say, I'm sorry? Say, take me to jail, I shouldn't have been robbing a store?

I, like the officer, would not take that chance...no one can tell you how YOU should behave when you're in a dangerous situation.

I'm still at odds on why, some are at odds with the police and complying?

Heck, I got stopped the other day, the very first thing on my mind was to run...

No, I didn't run, why? All my shit, is in order..I didnt' even get a ticket, why?

He said, thanks for answering my questions, just slow down please.
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The issue is, people like Ron don't take into consideration, what the person was doing, that lead to their death. They say, well so what, he committed a crime, let him go, so that criminals like this, continue to make the neighborhoods crime infested.
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hahahaha... When did I say they should let people and criminals who run havoc go?
Please, let's get serious for a second..

I HAVE a problem when people are UNJUSTLY KILLED BY COPS and people saying things led to their deaths... Unless the things they do put the Cops lives in danger, or other lives in danger, than I do have a problem with it...


lol and oh yea, for good measure, I'm all for arresting people who are committing or committed criminal acts.. Which is what a cop is EMPLOYED to do.. NOT KILLED UNJUSTLY because someone didnt comply or made them work more than they had to...

Like the Cop that shot that black dude as he was running away, and then LIED and MANUFACTURED the CRIME SCENE...

Did that guy deserved to get arrested for non-compliance? I can argue yes...

But did he deserved to get Murdered? I will SAY NO...


And I dont take what the cop's account said about Mike Brown... That's another forum..


And why people dont comply is because Cops break constitutional Laws when it comes to blacks and other citizens regularly...

You dont have a duty to comply when your constitutional Law are being broken..
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What are individuals constitutionals rights when it comes to the police?

I do believe this is an educational moment :D

Here, I'll start. When stopped by the police, comply. You don't have to answer any questions, however, that does not mean, you can't be arrested..

The police must have a valid reason to stop you. It doesn't matter if you think they shouldn't, or you view it, as harassing, they can stop you. The PO must tell you, why they stopped you.

The place to fight a ticket is court, not on side of the street. Once you engage in banger with the police, you're lost leverage.
Lol. that was already explained to u..

Go look at the two videos that I posted..

Look what happened to the Black Guy when a cop decided to break his constitutional rights..

He got arrested, lost his jobs and was in a heap of legal trouble and his record is preventing him from getting jobs...

Hope, I did my best to educate u on what Cops Unjustly do to citizens..



But sadly, I have to go for the day... I cant educate u further... Another time..
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Ronroyce

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May 17 2016, 12:51 PM
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May 17 2016, 12:46 PM
The police must have a valid reason to stop you. It doesn't matter if you think they shouldn't, or you view it, as harassing, they can stop you. The PO must tell you, why they stopped you.

The place to fight a ticket is court, not on side of the street. Once you engage in banger with the police, you're lost leverage.
I think it is better to get the last word in court (if you were unjustly detained by the police), rather than out in the street (in a figurative urinating contest).

You get a good lawyer that can prove that the police were found to be at fault, and you can earn a nice pay day courtesy of the city.
Unfortunately it doesnt happen that way...

Police get away with Injustice all the times... Look at Civilian complaint boards... They terrrorize people, they scare them, they make their lives miserable etc...

To the point where people simply GIVE UP.. and Dont bother..


Even when they comply and want to fight it later on, they still end up losing..
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I'm talking about Officers that get Caught (MANY GET AWAY WITH IT, IN ABSENCE OF NO VIDEO EVIDENCE) need to ARRESTED and PROSECUTED..

You are missing this, the Supreme Court has given the police extreme leeway in instances you've listed. These things will have to be proven in a court of law. Intent (goes to state of mind, when the incident occurred) It's very hard to tell someone who's just been beaten by a big kid, and then once you've told them to get down, and they come at you, to not fear for your life. You would lose, and most jurisdictions don't waste tax payers money, trying these cases.

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And Yes, I know the law more than you know.. Trust me on that

We will see..

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Lol. for some reason u assume that people u talk to online are home, living in their mother's basement, scratching their unwashed balls and never have achieving anything in life and living in some impoverished neighborhood somewhere.

You're allowed to think anyway you want. However, I do make it a point to say this about one person, Blaxxx. He doesn't represent 'people' he's my jester, my lil monkey..

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AS I said, when an order is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, u are not OBLIGED to follow it..

Do give an example of this, and who mentioned anything about something being unconstitutional? I stated, once again, when you're given an order by the police, when you disobey that order, you can be arrested.

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The Problem is the Cops LIE and tack on Bogus Charges and then it costs u money, time, your job, your freedom to fight these Bogus Charges...

Now, we're getting somewhere. Tell me, if you know all of this, then why, please tell me why, some are still doing stupid shit, that gets them killed. My father posed this question to all of his kids: If I give you the test, and the answers, and you still fail the test, who's fault it that? You just told everyone the answer (your opine), cops lie, therefore??? what must be done, when you know, the cops (your opine) will lie? Aren't you in effect, saying these guys are very stupid?

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Cops know this and that's why they do this...

Now, tell us what you guys have learned from this, to keep doing the same thing, and get killed?? :-/

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I'm saying that these cops should get Fired, Prosecuted to the full extent the law permits

Be the prosecutor on behalf of Mike Brown. Show us the evidence you would have used to prosecute Wilson??
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Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 01:08 PM
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May 17 2016, 12:40 PM
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May 17 2016, 12:17 PM
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May 17 2016, 11:03 AM
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May 17 2016, 02:15 AM
Also.. How can people claim to be against violence but condone violence and killing, simply because someone is wearing a badge and kills someone that's unarmed for non-compliance and for being black?

But yet, when these black kids are gunning each other down dead, we act like we are so concerned..

What about when it's a white dude wearing a badge, where the black person in question posed no threat?

How come there's no outrage or forums made?
You are free to create your own threads to discuss these matters.
Of course I am..

Just as I'm free to wonder why there's no outrage, anger, concern when Criminals that became Cops kill Unjustly and get away with it..

You previously posted that you have a bias towards law enforcement.

So any outrage, anger, or concern would have to satisfy your standard.
I didnt previoulsly state I have a bias..

I know what goes on... I have worked with law departments sir and I see complaints.. Also I see with my eyes... Also there is plenty of documented evidence...

And outrage, concern doesnt have to meet my standards...

They simply have to meet your standards...

Your standards is that u speak out against thing that u claim to be outraged about

Like ur forum about kids being killed by other blacks... like how u are speaking out against mike brown..etc...

Lol still havent seen u speak out against Violence, Unjust Killings by People with Badges...

So by your very own standards... You dont seem to have concern or outrage or anger..


You previously posted this.

Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 12:16 PM
Those are the words of the cop... COPS have been proven to lie to cover-up situations where they murder... And whole police depts have covered for these cops..

So I dont go by the words of cops...


By your own words, you are suspicious towards cops.

Feel free to post all the threads you want about police abuse, based on your experiences, and the data you have collected.

You are making assumptions about me without fully doing your research. I have posted about police abuse, created threads about police abuse, and even posted threads how the city suffers from the failures of police.

Feel free to make all the biased assumptions about me.
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May 17 2016, 01:14 PM
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May 17 2016, 12:51 PM
reddgirl64
May 17 2016, 12:46 PM
The police must have a valid reason to stop you. It doesn't matter if you think they shouldn't, or you view it, as harassing, they can stop you. The PO must tell you, why they stopped you.

The place to fight a ticket is court, not on side of the street. Once you engage in banger with the police, you're lost leverage.
I think it is better to get the last word in court (if you were unjustly detained by the police), rather than out in the street (in a figurative urinating contest).

You get a good lawyer that can prove that the police were found to be at fault, and you can earn a nice pay day courtesy of the city.
Unfortunately it doesnt happen that way...

Police get away with Injustice all the times... Look at Civilian complaint boards... They terrrorize people, they scare them, they make their lives miserable etc...

To the point where people simply GIVE UP.. and Dont bother..


Even when they comply and want to fight it later on, they still end up losing..
Actually, victims of police abuse have achieved justice in court.

Many have won huge settlements.

Your worldview is just that.....your worldview.
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May 17 2016, 01:02 PM
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May 17 2016, 12:38 PM
Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 12:16 PM
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May 17 2016, 10:59 AM
Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 02:07 AM
Doctor Magnus Warlock
May 16 2016, 05:33 PM
Not every instance of an officer involved shooting of a black male is racially motivated.

The insistence of making every case an instance of racism distracts from real instances of racially-motivated police brutality.

Some of these cases clearly show one party being non-compliant/over-aggressive with the police.
Again.. Non-Compliance/Over-Agressive are NOT grounds to get executed or shot at..

And WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT HAVING TO BE EVERY INSTANCE... NO ONE makes it or made it about every instance..

When a guy is unarmed, and gets shot dead, Obvious protocols were not followed... A Cop is ALSO trained to call for back up in order to apprehend a perp and to ONLY shoot if the perp is endandering the lives of others or the officer's own lives.. (But that seems to be lost on u) as u see non-compliance and being over-aggressive as grounds to get shot.. No sir... That's NOT what cops are trained to do..


And lastly, if it happens enough times to show a trend,(which, it does) then it needs to be an issue that has to be dealt with...

How can u ignore the many VIDEO tape incidences of people getting shot and killed unjustly by cops??


This was an instance where the person murdered was overly aggressive towards a cop.

Had Brown not stole from the store, the cops would not have been called.

Had Brown peacefully complied with Wilson, he would not have been shot.

Furthermore, I don't need to comment on every video taped incident.
Those are the words of the cop... COPS have been proven to lie to cover-up situations where they murder... And whole police depts have covered for these cops..

So I dont go by the words of cops... Since Mike Brown is not here to give his accounts...


And of course u dont need to comment on every video taped incident..

But dont come here and pretend that Police Violence against Blacks is not racially motivated by bringing up that All Killings are not racially motivated.. When no one ever said All killings by cops are racially motivated..
I don't think it has ever been stated, that some cops lie..EVER!!

He's correct, not all killings are racially motivated, thats just how you see them. You are allowed to see race where ever you want, you're not allowed to tell anyone else, they should see it, like you..

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Police Violence against Blacks is racially motivated


Really? Prove it..not your opine, just the law!!




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He's correct, not all killings are racially motivated, thats just how you see them. You are allowed to see race where ever you want, you're not allowed to tell anyone else, they should see it, like you..



Lol.. hahha.. u are on a roll today and making me laugh...

When did i claim ALL killings are racially motivated...

please, let;s have serious convos in here and stop clown shows..


Point of the matter is that COPS have BEEN SHOWN, PROVEN to lie, Fabricate Murder scenes after they murder people and other cops have Covered for them, Just as well as Police captains and whole police department cover-ups..

From not releasing videos of the incident, if it proves the officer's guilt, from not prosecuting, from letting them off easy, from saying it was a just mistake.. etc.. the list goes on..


Lets not pretend that Cops dont kill Unjustly and then Get away with it...

They do..
Your words..tell me, what are you saying here?

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But dont come here and pretend that Police Violence against Blacks is not racially motivated


I didn't ever say, you said ALL, however, you did say, violence is against blacks, is racially motivated..(English was one of my favorite subjects, and you can stop laughing now :D )

Please, for the very last time, no one has ever said, that police don't lie, don't cover up evidence, I'm saying not every time is it a lie or cover up. Every situation is different, just happens to involve a criminal and a cop.

Why are you ignoring all those people who witness what Mike did on that day? What do you think Mike was going to do, once he faced the cop and came at him?

Now, I would expect your answer to be, I can't read Mike's mind. Why, because that would be considered conjecture, an assumption, etc..

Just like you can't read a cop's mind, when they decide to shoot. You don't know if it's real fear or racism..

See this is called, an assumption..not factual, but simply your opine.
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May 17 2016, 01:06 PM
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May 17 2016, 01:02 PM
please, lets have serious convos in here and stop clown shows..


Point of the matter is that COPS have BEEN SHOWN, PROVEN to lie, Fabricate Murder scenes after they murder people and other cops have Covered for them, Just as well as Police captains and whole police department cover-ups..


LOL @ you still NOT heeding my, advice, to stop posting kryptonite which they both will run away scared to touch.






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HINT: Doc Saul got 20+ posts here/thousands of words supporting a need to murder Mike Brown, yet he could only muster up fifteen (15) words to address your scholarship here.



















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No one here disproved Mike Brown was unjustly murdered.

All I have seen here are other cases of police abuse, but nothing specific about Brown's case.
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May 17 2016, 01:43 PM
No one here disproved Mike Brown was unjustly murdered.

All I have seen here are other cases of police abuse, but nothing specific about Brown's case.
Can you tell me, where either of have ever stated that 'some' police will lie, fabricated, and manufacture evidence?

Where? I would like to read that statement coming from me? or you?

However, if you are aware and know that some police are capable, then what on earth, should you be doing to better assist yourself?

Comply and live to see another day!!

Fuk that, run, fight, go for their gun, do all of those things..

Then, wait on the courts and prosecutors to put them all in jail..

Yep that's it, it's working for them ^o)
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May 17 2016, 01:43 PM
No one here disproved Mike Brown was unjustly murdered...
You are a racist cop, and I am not Ron. So I possess the mental capacity to see thru your vile deceit here.

Such as you being aware that the racism's county Prosecutor, Bob McCollough, did prove that Brown was illegally executed all by himself.

Yes sir, when he 1)condoned cops writing their own police reports in cases of their own misconduct and 2)unfairly/unethically decided to rape Justice by leaving himself on the case. All while knowing he had previously shown local (negro) public mistrust, as sole controller of a grand jury's exposure to unbiased presentation of cop's mindset and behaviors in cases.

Yep. Same Bob McCullough who only a few months, earlier, had charged a darkskinned-NI99ER (Troy Davis) with destruction of GOVT property.

Why?

Well, bcuz when racism's cops physically brutalized the innocent Mr. Davis, he still had commited no crime.

So they decided that Mr. Davis' laying there curled up in a ball with his blood, splashing, on White cop's uniforms and batons as they beat him -----did constitute criminal behavior on Mr. Davis' part. How dare that animal bleed, while being pulverized with new-age police batons?!!! Bob McCullough agreed.


Yep. Same Bob McCullough who Doc Saul supports, when Doc Saul agrees with McCullough's own tailormade "gran jury" and their racist decision on Mike Brown's case.


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So again, remember that I'm not Ron pal.


Noper, and don't you ever EVER forget it ;) either
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