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Mike Brown FBI Report; Black Lives Matters, what say you??
Topic Started: May 6 2016, 11:54 AM (1,314 Views)
U Thant
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reddgirl64
May 16 2016, 11:36 AM
Damn. I hate when U Thant torched me with that cop-training article just now. I wish Blaxx would come make U Thant take his foot off my neck.
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reddgirl64
May 16 2016, 10:56 AM
As for as black men as a whole, I've stated before, the NOI has nothing but black men, I'm still waiting on why they aren't being shot by the racist police?
Great point, Redd.
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Ethos Logos Pathos
May 6 2016, 04:05 PM
LOL @ how a dumb racist Trollop and her fav racist cop, login, to pretend that darkskinned-NI99ER Mike Brown raising his hand up at a store clerk who (illegally) grabbed him...is why Darren Wilson executed Mike Brown.


ROFL


I love IT how easy it is to expose, lowdown racists, who only post on this website to try and make negroes look subhuman.
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Not every instance of an officer involved shooting of a black male is racially motivated.

The insistence of making every case an instance of racism distracts from real instances of racially-motivated police brutality.

Some of these cases clearly show one party being non-compliant/over-aggressive with the police.
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Doctor Magnus Warlock
May 16 2016, 05:33 PM
Not every instance of an officer involved shooting of a black male is racially motivated.

The insistence of making every case an instance of racism distracts from real instances of racially-motivated police brutality.



Ethos Logos Pathos
May 16 2016, 11:30 AM

Deceit can't hide, when I pull out the "Raid"





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How Police Training Contributes to Avoidable Deaths;
To save lives, cops must be taught to think beyond the gun belt.





...officers are trained to shoot before a threat is fully realized, to not wait until the last minute because the last minute may be too late.

But what about the consequences of a mistake? After all, that dark object in the suspect’s hands could be a wallet, not a gun. The occasional training scenario may even make that point.

But officers are taught that the risks of mistake are less—far less—than the risks of hesitation. A common phrase among cops pretty much sums it up: “Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.”

...Officers should be trained to keep that perspective in mind as they go about their jobs.

Training also needs to compensate for the unconscious racial biases that lead officers to perceive a greater threat from black men than from others.

Officers are not unique in that regard; implicit racial animus is depressingly common in society. But it is of special concern in the context of policing.

Because officers use more force when they perceive a greater threat, unconscious bias can lead officers to react more aggressively when confronting black men than they would when confronting others in otherwise identical situations. As we’ve seen too many times, the results are beyond tragic.

...Use-of-force training should also emphasize de-escalation and flexible tactics in a way that minimizes the need to rely on force, particularly lethal force...


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reddgirl64
May 16 2016, 11:01 AM
Ronroyce
May 9 2016, 12:34 PM
Doctor Magnus Warlock
May 8 2016, 06:49 PM
Wise words indeed, Snidely.

Both sides must accept culpability for this mess in order to foster better relations.

The media tends to go from one extreme to another when reporting these events.
Lol at better relations

Nah.. Bad cops know what they are doing... They just need to get fired and prosecuted...

And Criminals are criminals.. They do stupid shyt.. break the law.... Unless a Police officer's life is in Danger, they dont have the right to shoot...

Running away from police, being disrespectful towards police, not obeying police orders are NOT grounds to shoot an Unarmed Person...

How much more clearer can this be??


Anyone else not wearing a badge, and killing an unarmed person when their lives werent threatened would face criminal charges..

And oh yea, Killing is also a criminal act.. whether u have a uniform on or not...
Huh..

Isn't Trayvon and Mike mother's, those women you're so keen to degrade?

Look at the product they produced? Who knows when their weed habit began, however we know, they both smoked it. Was this Mike first time stealing? Who knows..

Trayvon sent to his dad's by his, (insert the name you call mothers like this), to assist with helping him, nah, the dad says, I got better things to do...

When did he find out, his precious son, was missing?

With parents like this, the hood has no future...not the police fault!!
I dont understand your reply to my post..

First off, I am not keen on degrading anyone... I dont know exactly what u are referring to, but I'm guessing you are hinting at the Violence thread that was going on a few weeks ago.. In that case, I simply stated what I thought the root of the problem was and how to put an end to it... I dont have some sort of Gender alliance or Gender bias.. I tell it based on what my analysis revealed to me..

but enough on that..

I'm guessing you dont like people that prey and kill their own kind... I'm the same here... I cringe and hate the violence that's pervasive amongts these youths...

But that's not the issue with me.. I simply had to laugh when I read that somehow that blacks have to foster better relations with Whites who hate Blacks, Whites who are wearing badges to kill...

Based on all the empirical video evidence that I've seen, it's usually Whites who hate blacks, who happen to be wearing badges that kill Blacks when their lives were NOT in danger, for the mere case of NON-COMPLIANCE or for BEING BLACK...

I'm sorry.. in my Book and by law, that's not enough to merit Execution...

U remember that guy that was running away from that cop and cop shot him and the back and then was about to set up the crime scene to make it look like the guy tried to reach for his gun..?

U remember Tamir rice wasnt even given a chance to comply, when the cops just pulled up on him and within seconds executed him...

U remember that Black kid at walmart who the police gunned for being at a Walmart store with a Toy gun he got from Walmart... Never was he given a chance, they simply came in and executed him...

U remember the cop that Shot and killed a man he pulled over and the guy was about to drive away, when he shot him dead..

U remember that Black kid in the subway in oakland I believe who was on his chest laying on the ground and that cop executed him shooting him in the back?

etc...etc.. The List goes on and on and on and on and on..

All are instances where their Lives WERE NOT in DANGER... But they chose to shoot and execute Black Youth, Men anyway...

I'm sorry mam... There is no Fostering better relations... there is NO Better training.. etc..

These cops simply need to get fired and Prosecuted for murder... They are simply criminals wearing Badges to do as they please to Blacks..

This is not about Media.. This is not about a bias in reporting those events.. these are simply Whites who dont blacks, that are given power to do something about their hate, their bias, and their disregard for black lives..

these guys are criminals wearing badges.. They are not cops..




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May 16 2016, 05:33 PM
Not every instance of an officer involved shooting of a black male is racially motivated.

The insistence of making every case an instance of racism distracts from real instances of racially-motivated police brutality.

Some of these cases clearly show one party being non-compliant/over-aggressive with the police.
Again.. Non-Compliance/Over-Agressive are NOT grounds to get executed or shot at..

And WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT HAVING TO BE EVERY INSTANCE... NO ONE makes it or made it about every instance..

When a guy is unarmed, and gets shot dead, Obvious protocols were not followed... A Cop is ALSO trained to call for back up in order to apprehend a perp and to ONLY shoot if the perp is endandering the lives of others or the officer's own lives.. (But that seems to be lost on u) as u see non-compliance and being over-aggressive as grounds to get shot.. No sir... That's NOT what cops are trained to do..


And lastly, if it happens enough times to show a trend,(which, it does) then it needs to be an issue that has to be dealt with...

How can u ignore the many VIDEO tape incidences of people getting shot and killed unjustly by cops??


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Ronroyce

Also.. How can people claim to be against violence but condone violence and killing, simply because someone is wearing a badge and kills someone that's unarmed for non-compliance and for being black?

But yet, when these black kids are gunning each other down dead, we act like we are so concerned..

What about when it's a white dude wearing a badge, where the black person in question posed no threat?

How come there's no outrage or forums made?
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Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 02:15 AM
...people claim to be against violence but condone violence and killing, simply because someone is wearing a badge and kills someone that's unarmed for non-compliance and for being black?

But yet, when these black kids are gunning each other down dead, we act like we are so concerned..

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What about when it's a white dude wearing a badge, where the black person in question posed no threat? How come there's no outrage or forums made?


too bad, Ron...

This will be that, point, where the cliq stops replying to you -----since you just took a shit on their core beliefs here.


But I'm sure you can relate ;) to their predicament.
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Ronroyce
May 17 2016, 02:15 AM
Also.. How can people claim to be against violence but condone violence and killing, simply because someone is wearing a badge and kills someone that's unarmed for non-compliance and for being black?

But yet, when these black kids are gunning each other down dead, we act like we are so concerned..

What about when it's a white dude wearing a badge, where the black person in question posed no threat?

How come there's no outrage or forums made?
My reply to you, was in response to your opine regarding women and their kids. Do tell, how do you view the mothers of the under age kids, killed by cops? Should they be held responsible in some way for their kids actions?

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usually Whites who hate blacks, who happen to be wearing badges that kill Blacks when their lives were NOT in danger, for the mere case of NON-COMPLIANCE or for BEING BLACK...

This is non other than mere conjecture, assumption and your very own racist view of whites. Tell me, how do you determine what is danger? It's very easy to do after the fact, but in the moment, how do you determine, what is dangerous or life threatening?
**also, just a law lesson, non compliance is a reason for arrest. Once you've been given an order, not a request, and order, to disobey is grounds for arrest or a ticket**

You're putting information out there, that's erroneous, and it only hurts the cause. Education of the laws and your rights, is what the inner city needs, not more opines and rhetoric.

Fighting and resisting are grounds for arrest, and in the cases you listed, lead to death. Tell me, when fighting, if its your life or theirs, wouldn't you chose yours?

In these cases, these men, did not comply. Once you decide you're going to fight, I think the edge goes to the police. Don't know why it's hard for some to get this, the police is not going to stop shooting..at some point, live to see another day, and expose the cops if you think you've been mistreated.

With Tamir and John, again, how are the police suppose to know, if the gun is real or not, in that moment? You're looking at things 'after the fact', however it's the moment the situation is occurring that the judge, jury, and FBI will use. Not what one 'should, could, or would' do differently..

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Dontre Hamilton, 31, was fatally shot 14 times by a police officer, engaged in a struggle,
John Crawford, 22, was shot and killed by a police officer, he had been holding a toy BB gun,
Michael Brown, 18, was shot and killed...
Tamir Rice, 12, was shot and killed by Cleveland police after officers mistook his toy gun for a real weapon.
Jerame Reid, 36, was shot and killed by police officers in Bridgeton, New Jersey. He was a passenger in a car driven by his friend, who was pulled over by police.
In dashcam video footage of the stop, an officer is heard claiming that there is a gun in the glove compartment. Police shouted at Reid not to exit the car, but he did, with his hands apparently in front of his chest.


The cops were charged, and rightly so..

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Akai Gurley, 28, was shot and killed by a police officer while walking in a dimly lit New York City public housing stairwell with his girlfriend. Gurley, who was unarmed, was pronounced dead at a hospital. New York Police Department Commissioner Bill Bratton called the shooting an “accidental discharge.”
The officer, rookie Peter Liang, was charged with second-degree manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, second-degree assault, reckless endangerment, and two counts of official misconduct.

Eric Harris, 44, was shot and killed by a 73-year-old reserve deputy officer who allegedly mistook his own gun for a Taser. The entire incident was captured on a dashcam video.
The officer, Robert Bates, was charged with manslaughter.

Walter Scott, 50, was shot by a police officer while running away from a traffic stop for a broken taillight. Officer Michael Slager claimed Scott had taken his stun gun.
Slager was subsequently fired and charged with murder after a video surfaced showing Scott running away, his back to the officer, as Slager fired his gun.
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