Men, have we failed? At helping some women find their own confidence, in Life?

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Men, have we failed? At helping some women find their own confidence, in Life?
Topic Started: Dec 29 2015, 05:49 AM (654 Views)
VoiceofReason	Dec 31 2015, 03:08 PM Post #31
Posts: 14,809 Group: Members Member #1,071 Joined: Aug 27, 2011	cisslybee2012 Dec 31 2015, 02:59 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 02:56 PM Sure thing, Ciss. As if the two are not related, as if you're not trying to save her from bad choices and the disappointment that ensues, which erodes self-esteem. Ok. I can't save her from anything. All I can do is try to help her to raise her self awareness level. As for bad choices, we all make them. So making a bad choice doesn't erode self esteem. It's a learning tool. Ok. No, not ok. I think that's a lie. You have a goal in mind for her. "Raising her awareness" is not merely an exercise for you. We teach children to help them avoid pain - we teach them to not play with fire to avoid the pain of getting burned; how to use a knife in the kitchen to avoid the pain of getting cut; how to cook and feed themselves to avoid the pain of not being able to feed yourself; to make smart decisions to avoid the pain of bad ones. It's simple. Bad decisions lead to unacceptable behavior which in turn leads to negative situations or negative consequences, which lead a typical person to feel bad about themselves which is low-self-esteem, and they often in turn, inflict pain on others continuing the cycle. Edited by VoiceofReason, Dec 31 2015, 03:11 PM.



cisslybee2012	Dec 31 2015, 03:12 PM Post #32
The REBEL Posts: 46,231 Group: Members Member #556 Joined: Jun 21, 2010	VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:08 PM I think that's a lie. You have a goal in mind for her. I'm sorry you feel that way.



VoiceofReason	Dec 31 2015, 03:16 PM Post #33
Posts: 14,809 Group: Members Member #1,071 Joined: Aug 27, 2011	cisslybee2012 Dec 31 2015, 03:12 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:08 PM I think that's a lie. You have a goal in mind for her. I'm sorry you feel that way. You're sorry that I believe you have a goal in mind for her? Yeah, I think you love her and want only the best for her - that's based on what you've written. And, that's why you want to "raise her awareness" (which will lead to better decisions which will lead to feeling good about herself = high self-esteem.) Edited by VoiceofReason, Dec 31 2015, 03:17 PM.



cisslybee2012	Dec 31 2015, 03:19 PM Post #34
The REBEL Posts: 46,231 Group: Members Member #556 Joined: Jun 21, 2010	VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:16 PM cisslybee2012 Dec 31 2015, 03:12 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:08 PM I think that's a lie. You have a goal in mind for her. I'm sorry you feel that way. You're sorry that I believe you have a goal in mind for her? Yeah, I think you love her and want only the best for her - that's based on what you've written. And, that's why you want to "raise her awareness" (which will lead to better decisions which will lead to feeling good about herself - high self-esteem.) I take that you're describing me as a dictator. And you just got through calling me a liar. Which is why I'm sorry you feel that way.



VoiceofReason	Dec 31 2015, 03:57 PM Post #35
Posts: 14,809 Group: Members Member #1,071 Joined: Aug 27, 2011	cisslybee2012 Dec 31 2015, 03:19 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:16 PM cisslybee2012 Dec 31 2015, 03:12 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 03:08 PM I think that's a lie. You have a goal in mind for her. I'm sorry you feel that way. You're sorry that I believe you have a goal in mind for her? Yeah, I think you love her and want only the best for her - that's based on what you've written. And, that's why you want to "raise her awareness" (which will lead to better decisions which will lead to feeling good about herself - high self-esteem.) I take that you're describing me as a dictator. And you just got through calling me a liar. Which is why I'm sorry you feel that way. I didn't call you anything other than an aunt who loves her niece; I gave my opinion. You can disagree and/or take it whatever way you need to. Edited by VoiceofReason, Dec 31 2015, 03:59 PM.



negroplease	Dec 31 2015, 04:02 PM Post #36
Posts: 31,973 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: Jul 14, 2010	Rick1 Dec 31 2015, 09:31 AM negroplease Dec 31 2015, 09:01 AM Rick1 Dec 31 2015, 08:50 AM negroplease Dec 31 2015, 08:43 AM While its not a man's job to give women confidence, many men certainly have torn women down and helped their self esteem suffer. Stop lying! Where is the lie? "man men certainly have torn women down and helped their self esteem suffer". IT'S CALLED SELF ESTEEM Come on Rick you are smarter than this. Its what you believe about yourself. But when others constantly bombard you with negativity, you start to believe it about yourself.



negroplease	Dec 31 2015, 04:04 PM Post #37
Posts: 31,973 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: Jul 14, 2010	Dont ever complain about anyone holding you down then Its called SELF EFFICACY and you should believe you have the power to accomplish things with outside forces like "the man" holding you back then



negroplease	Dec 31 2015, 04:06 PM Post #38
Posts: 31,973 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: Jul 14, 2010	Some of you are the same ones who claim girls need fathers in their lives to boost their confidence and show them how to be treated. How do you live with such contradiction ? Edited by negroplease, Dec 31 2015, 04:07 PM.



negroplease	Dec 31 2015, 04:08 PM Post #39
Posts: 31,973 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: Jul 14, 2010	Rick1 Dec 31 2015, 12:18 PM VoiceofReason Dec 31 2015, 12:02 PM Rick1 Dec 31 2015, 09:31 AM negroplease Dec 31 2015, 09:01 AM Rick1 Dec 31 2015, 08:50 AM negroplease Dec 31 2015, 08:43 AM While its not a man's job to give women confidence, many men certainly have torn women down and helped their self esteem suffer. Stop lying! Where is the lie? "man men certainly have torn women down and helped their self esteem suffer". IT'S CALLED SELF ESTEEM As a social creature, all humans impact each others "self esteem". Well let's just call it "esteem". I don't allow people to fuck up my "esteem". Thats good for you. But why be condescending to people not as fortunate or emotionally abused.. Why because that is what abusers do.



negroplease	Dec 31 2015, 04:09 PM Post #40
Posts: 31,973 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: Jul 14, 2010	Yoou can be strong and confident and have someone and circumstances break it down.



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