Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 04:54 PM

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9 Wack Things White Guys Say to Deny their Asian Fetish
When I ask, "What’s up with your long history of dating so many Asian women?" these are the nine stupid answers I get.
KRISTINA WONG JUL 22, 2013


I launched www.bigbadchinesemama.com, a mock mail order bride website that targeted Asiaphiles with images like the above. Now, 13 years later, I find myself dating the descendants of the same men I once loathed.

If my vagina had a guest book, it would look like the roster of the United Nations (if the United Nations consisted of a small group of broke-ass ambassadors of different ethnic backgrounds). Lately, though, with white guys I’ve dated, I’m consistently finding out that I’m one in a long line of Asian women they’ve dated. It’s awkward.

White guys with Asian fetishes used to be easy to spot -- pathetic social pariahs planning their sex tour vacations to Thailand, creeping around Japanese language classes. Now, Asiaphiles are attractive tattooed hipsters that possess fantastic social skills, and we meet them through friends of friends.

When I ask these guys: “What’s up with your long history of dating so many Asian women?” It’s like I’ve triggered the shaming meltdown of a lifetime -- dudes get nervous, defensive, and very rarely, are willing to engage in an inevitably uncomfortable conversation about race.

9 Wack Things I’ve ACTUALLY been told by Asian Fetish Guys in Denial


1. “I can’t be accused of having an Asian fetish because my Russian Great-Grandfather looked Asian.”

I think Latoya Jackson looks Thai on the “We Are the World” album cover, shall I ask for her pad thai recipe? First lesson in Race 101: There’s a difference between having a distant relative “look” like a member of an ethnic group and having lived the experience enough to claim it.

2. “If I really had an Asian Fetish, I’d be buying sex slaves off the Internet.”

According to Wikipedia: “An Asian fetish is usually understood to be an interest, attraction, or preference for Asian culture, things or people.” Just like “racists” are not just people who scream the N-word and wear KKK robes, not all guys with Asian fetishists do drastically evil things. Your fetish may be an admiration of Asian people and culture, not an all out need for colonial conquest. STOP DEFLECTING.

3. “How is being into Asian women any different than a woman being only into guys who wear glasses or have a certain color hair?”

Because moron -- my history, my culture and my racial identity is not the same as a pair of glasses or a hair color. Race is not something we choose to be born with or can add or remove to create sexual attraction. I am not “amping up” my race so you find me more sexually attractive.

4. “I lived in China/Japan/Thailand/Mongolia/Studied Buddhism for a year. I know more about your culture than you!”

Just like I don’t assume to know what it’s like for you to be a presumptuous white man, you don’t know “my culture” until you’ve spent 18 years raised by my Chinese mother and another lifetime fighting off the guilt that I’ll have from publishing the opening sentence of this essay. And who are you to define what my culture is? “Culture” is an ever-evolving diasporic phenomenon; it’s not just about language and ancient customs.

5. “I don’t see race.”

Then how is it that your dating habits have me feeling like I’m on an assembly line of Asian blow-up dolls?!

6. “I don’t date only Asian women. I once dated a Puerto Rican girl in college.”

If your bar tab has one daiquiri and 17 Singapore Slings, I'm thinking rum isn't your drink.

7. If you only date white men, does that mean you have a white fetish?

No, it means I live on the East coast or Midwest or the South or a work in an environment teeming with white men. Or it means you creeps keep making a beeline toward me.

And can people stop making analogies of race where white people and people of color are interchangeable?! White people and People of Color have different histories of power, so it is problematic to interchange them in an analogy as if they are equal.

8. “I don’t know why you keep insinuating I have 'white privilege.’ I grew up working class and was bullied as a kid for my big nose. I never had white privilege.”

EVERYONE has felt left out. EVERYONE got picked on. Do women clutch their purses tighter to themselves when you pass them on the street? Do people constantly assume you can’t speak English? Are you part of a race that systematically receives the worst health care, education, and environmental policy? Would you ever want to play the DNA lottery and come back to this life as a black man? This is the white privilege I speak of.

9. “When I approach a group of women, I tend to be better at picking up the Asian ones. So that’s why I tend to go for them.”

Thanks for using an obvious metaphor that dating is an act of colonial conquest where Asian women are the injured gazelles and you the stupid insecure hunter with one bullet. Keep digging yourself that hole you are standing in.

Guys! Here’s the better response to give me next time I ask you why you only date Asian women: “I acknowledge that I’ve been gravitating towards dating Asian women, and it probably has to do with a subconscious racial preference. I want to explore my racial biases, my racism, and my privilege as a white male. I vow to actively unlearn my racism and white privilege, build cultural competency and sensitivity, so that the women I’m dating feel less creeped out.”


I know. It’s a long, wordy, unrealistic statement to follow through on that you will have to read to me off a notecard. But openly talking about race is sexy to me. Admitting your privilege and wanting unlearn racism is sexy to me. If you say it and mean it, you’ll improve your chances of signing my vagina’s guestbook.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/asian-fetish

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 06:30 PM

One of the more amusing things I have uncovered is how many white men who mostly date Asian women view white women.

Some of the reasons white men give for not dating white women include:

- WW are too bossy.

- WW are not as feminine, and seem to take on more masculine traits.

- WW don't take care of themselves physically.

- WW don't place any emphasis on making WM happy.

- WW put their men down in public.


Some of these comments almost mirror word for word what many black men who pursue interracial relationships say about black women.

Ironically enough, black men who do pursue interracial relationships do so with white women.

Some of the reasons many WM give for dating Asian women mirror the reasons many black men give for dating white women.

Fascinating stuff, for sure.

negroplease

Aug 10 2015, 06:53 AM

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 04:54 PM

Quote:

 

9 Wack Things White Guys Say to Deny their Asian Fetish
When I ask, "What’s up with your long history of dating so many Asian women?" these are the nine stupid answers I get.
KRISTINA WONG JUL 22, 2013


I launched www.bigbadchinesemama.com, a mock mail order bride website that targeted Asiaphiles with images like the above. Now, 13 years later, I find myself dating the descendants of the same men I once loathed.

If my vagina had a guest book, it would look like the roster of the United Nations (if the United Nations consisted of a small group of broke-ass ambassadors of different ethnic backgrounds). Lately, though, with white guys I’ve dated, I’m consistently finding out that I’m one in a long line of Asian women they’ve dated. It’s awkward.

White guys with Asian fetishes used to be easy to spot -- pathetic social pariahs planning their sex tour vacations to Thailand, creeping around Japanese language classes. Now, Asiaphiles are attractive tattooed hipsters that possess fantastic social skills, and we meet them through friends of friends.

When I ask these guys: “What’s up with your long history of dating so many Asian women?” It’s like I’ve triggered the shaming meltdown of a lifetime -- dudes get nervous, defensive, and very rarely, are willing to engage in an inevitably uncomfortable conversation about race.

9 Wack Things I’ve ACTUALLY been told by Asian Fetish Guys in Denial


1. “I can’t be accused of having an Asian fetish because my Russian Great-Grandfather looked Asian.”

I think Latoya Jackson looks Thai on the “We Are the World” album cover, shall I ask for her pad thai recipe? First lesson in Race 101: There’s a difference between having a distant relative “look” like a member of an ethnic group and having lived the experience enough to claim it.

2. “If I really had an Asian Fetish, I’d be buying sex slaves off the Internet.”

According to Wikipedia: “An Asian fetish is usually understood to be an interest, attraction, or preference for Asian culture, things or people.” Just like “racists” are not just people who scream the N-word and wear KKK robes, not all guys with Asian fetishists do drastically evil things. Your fetish may be an admiration of Asian people and culture, not an all out need for colonial conquest. STOP DEFLECTING.

3. “How is being into Asian women any different than a woman being only into guys who wear glasses or have a certain color hair?”

Because moron -- my history, my culture and my racial identity is not the same as a pair of glasses or a hair color. Race is not something we choose to be born with or can add or remove to create sexual attraction. I am not “amping up” my race so you find me more sexually attractive.

4. “I lived in China/Japan/Thailand/Mongolia/Studied Buddhism for a year. I know more about your culture than you!”

Just like I don’t assume to know what it’s like for you to be a presumptuous white man, you don’t know “my culture” until you’ve spent 18 years raised by my Chinese mother and another lifetime fighting off the guilt that I’ll have from publishing the opening sentence of this essay. And who are you to define what my culture is? “Culture” is an ever-evolving diasporic phenomenon; it’s not just about language and ancient customs.

5. “I don’t see race.”

Then how is it that your dating habits have me feeling like I’m on an assembly line of Asian blow-up dolls?!

6. “I don’t date only Asian women. I once dated a Puerto Rican girl in college.”

If your bar tab has one daiquiri and 17 Singapore Slings, I'm thinking rum isn't your drink.

7. If you only date white men, does that mean you have a white fetish?

No, it means I live on the East coast or Midwest or the South or a work in an environment teeming with white men. Or it means you creeps keep making a beeline toward me.

And can people stop making analogies of race where white people and people of color are interchangeable?! White people and People of Color have different histories of power, so it is problematic to interchange them in an analogy as if they are equal.

8. “I don’t know why you keep insinuating I have 'white privilege.’ I grew up working class and was bullied as a kid for my big nose. I never had white privilege.”

EVERYONE has felt left out. EVERYONE got picked on. Do women clutch their purses tighter to themselves when you pass them on the street? Do people constantly assume you can’t speak English? Are you part of a race that systematically receives the worst health care, education, and environmental policy? Would you ever want to play the DNA lottery and come back to this life as a black man? This is the white privilege I speak of.

9. “When I approach a group of women, I tend to be better at picking up the Asian ones. So that’s why I tend to go for them.”

Thanks for using an obvious metaphor that dating is an act of colonial conquest where Asian women are the injured gazelles and you the stupid insecure hunter with one bullet. Keep digging yourself that hole you are standing in.

Guys! Here’s the better response to give me next time I ask you why you only date Asian women: “I acknowledge that I’ve been gravitating towards dating Asian women, and it probably has to do with a subconscious racial preference. I want to explore my racial biases, my racism, and my privilege as a white male. I vow to actively unlearn my racism and white privilege, build cultural competency and sensitivity, so that the women I’m dating feel less creeped out.”


I know. It’s a long, wordy, unrealistic statement to follow through on that you will have to read to me off a notecard. But openly talking about race is sexy to me. Admitting your privilege and wanting unlearn racism is sexy to me. If you say it and mean it, you’ll improve your chances of signing my vagina’s guestbook.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/asian-fetish

Lol awesome

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 07:21 PM

Strudel,

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 06:58 PM

Ethos Logos Pathos

Aug 9 2015, 06:48 PM

Noper.

You are a deceitful White HISP cop who just now posted nothing, whatsoever, which shows me using a pro-Black website to uplift Caucasoid's well being as they do not relate to Black people.

Whereas this thread you have created shows no connection to Black people, whatsoever, and fortunately all readers can see that. Therefore, thanks. For once again making my job, easier, when it comes to ensuring all readers are able to identify you for what you are whenever you login to sabotage pro-Black websites.

I enjoy when you deflect from your clear instances of being anything but pro-black here.

Backbone

Aug 10 2015, 09:54 AM

Nothing against Asian women but I like my coffee black, my meat well done and every chip in my cookie chocolate. In other words I LOVE ME SOME BLACK WOMAN.

Ethos Logos Pathos

Aug 10 2015, 10:20 AM

Backbone

Aug 10 2015, 09:54 AM

Nothing against Asian women but I like my coffee black, my meat well done and every chip in my cookie chocolate. In other words I LOVE ME SOME BLACK WOMAN.

stay keen now, pimp;

...this thread is not about loving, Asian women, this thread is about uplifting White men and the choices they make...


If Doc Saul created a thread, then yes, there is always some underlying idolatry for White America. Its simply what racist White HISP cops, do, when they are posting on pro-Black websites.

cisslybee2012

Aug 9 2015, 11:16 PM

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 06:59 PM

cisslybee2012

Aug 9 2015, 06:50 PM

Now I've heard Asian women on TV say that they don't bother with Asian men because their dick is too small and they date only white guys.

I have heard from many Asian women that white guys treat them better than Asian men.

But as always, the reasons will vary.

I haven't heard that one. But don't doubt that many feel way. It's in fact the same thing many black women say about white men over black men.

Though in my experience, I found that it's not true.

White booty head guys are exactly the same as booty head black guys.

They ain't about nothing good. Pure garbage.

So I've come to the conclusion that women who make statements like that are out of it.

negroplease

Aug 10 2015, 06:51 AM

Doctor Saul Santiago

Aug 9 2015, 03:52 PM

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5 Misconceptions About White Guys With Asian Girls



It is no secret that there is a good amount of fornication between white guys and Asian women these days, and there are no signs of this trend slowing down. It’s hard to go out in a large American city nowadays and not see a white guy holding hands with an Asian girl. It’s even getting to the point where people aren’t surprised anymore if you tell them your girl is Asian, as if it’s almost slightly expected. But that doesn’t stop them from taking a second to look at you as if you’ve been infected with an incurable disease, otherwise known as yellow fever.

I am one those white guys whose immune system has been overrun by yellow fever. Yes, it is somewhat incurable. I also like to observe, listen, and attempt to understand the thought process of the mainstream. One thing I’ve learned over the years is that there is a lot of misinformation and myths associated with the white guy Asian woman saga. Here are 5 common misconceptions

1. Asian girls only hook up with white guys

If you are a white western feminist threatened by all the Asian girls taking your men, then you can relax. Most Asian girls are not interested in western men, and the ones that are also like non-white western men as well. If you are an angry white guy that thinks Asian women will love you because you are white, sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe in Korea or Japan during the 1990’s, but it’s 2014 dude. Get over yourself.

Global society has changed drastically. Everyone has high-speed internet, YouTube, and Facebook, and the world has been exposed ten times over. The truth is, guys of every color love Asian women and Asian chicks who adore western men are open to all backgrounds. Asian women often like western men because of the equal lifestyle it affords. Sure, it used to be only white guys and Asian women back in the day, but that was because they had only been exposed to white guys.

2. Asian girls hook up with creepy old white guys

Are there old guys in Thailand who have young girlfriends or old dudes in America married to some young, mail-order bride? Sure, of course there are. I’ve also seen young western women shacking up with old guys. The creepy old white guy and young Asian bride image has to stop. The reality is that there are tons of American guys in their twenties and thirties hooked up with a Japanese, Korean, or Chinese girl. Just take a stroll on a university campus and you will see a fair number of young, hot Asian women walking with their western boyfriends. The creepy old guy image is a stereotype mostly propagated by feminists.

3. Western men think Asian women are submissive and weak

This is another absurd misconception campaigned for by young, western feminists who have become bitter from a lack of attention. Personally, I don’t think most western men think Asian girls are weak. Western women, on the other hand, just assume that all Asian women are submissive and weak and that is the only logical explanation as to why they are sought after by western men.

Let’s just set the record straight. Sure, there are some submissive Asian girls in Asia, but these aren’t usually the ones that go with western men. The Asian women I’ve met and ones that go with western men are rather polite and less dramatic, though “submissive” is the wrong word to describe them. It is this drama-free demeanor that gets them pegged by their western counterparts as being “submissive.”

4. Asian women are just after a green card and money

Are there Asian women living in America with the hopes of securing a green card or financial security? Absolutely. Are there white, Black and Latina women shacked up with a guy right now because he has money or can help her get a job? Of course there are. So what is the difference if an Asian woman does it? At the end of the day, we live in a capitalistic system and a woman is a woman. In reality, most Asian girls are not after an American guy’s money or papers. Women from Korea, Japan, and China are some of the most sincere, selfless, non-materialistic and educated people on the planet.

5. Western men date Asian girls because they can’t get a REAL WOMAN

This one always makes me laugh. If by a “real women,” you mean having a girl put you down in front of your friends at the drop of a hat, then I don’t need a “real woman.” If you mean a chick that will stop caring about her body and looks after you settle down, then it’s not so appealing. If you mean a girl whose idea of cooking involves canned food, microwaves, and constant complaining, then I can live without a “real woman.”

Actually, western men for the most part love Asian women because they are actually women. Maybe western women should starting Asian men, since both groups love to be demanding, unappreciative, and expect too much.

http://www.returnofkings.com/45275/5-misconceptions-about-white-guys-with-asian-girls

3 is not actually that far fetched.

I see black men and white men say this often. Especially online.