Monday, February 16, 2015 Why don't White Men like White Women?
OKCupid revealed some interesting statistical data based on dating preferences and race. The higher the number, the greater the interest. For example, Asian men rate Asian women 11% higher that a neutral rating. However, Asian men have no interest (-24%) in black women.
What is interesting is that White men now prefer Asian women (18%) over White women (5%). In 2009 White men still preferred White women (10%) over Asian women (6%).
It is a rough world for Asian men and Black women. Only Asian women like Asian men. And not even Black men like Black women.
Many Eurasian men are now despondent about their situation. White girls typically do not like Asian men. And Asian girls either want an Asian man or a White man.
There is a lot of stereotyping on Asian and white women, especially with the Asian, with the number one of them being they being submissive and accommodating to men. Well whether that's true or not of Asian women I don't personally know, but I know for a fact is not true of white women. Point one.
And point two,
The bottom line is simply this... A man looking for a weak submissive woman is nothing but a childish fool. With black men it's nothing really but a bogus excuse over the real reason, which is they simply want someone lighter in complexion and with straighter hair than a black woman. Because I see plenty of black men with non black women who aren't submissive at all.
And those men appear to be happy as a lark with. So with this lot, when it comes to black women, it's always, the default you won't submit, you won't suck my ass, which is a bullshit excuse for why they really want out of the race.
The Asian fetish. Asiaphilia. Yellow fever. You've probably heard of these terms before — maybe you can even think of that one Caucasian friend of yours that only ever dates Asian women. A negative stigma exists around individuals suspect of such traits, and I always felt compelled to dig deeper into interracial dating between Asian women and Caucasian men. The issue is really a lot more complex that one would think, and deserves a closer look.
A common conception is this: The appeal of Asian women for Western men largely lies in the fantasy-indulging experience that engenders a feeling of dominance and masculinity which is lacking, or perhaps even threatened, in their own culture. Just look at the funny Charisma Man comic below (click to enlarge). Because Asian women come from a history where they traditionally serve men, the stereotype of the docile and submissive Asian woman feeds this dehumanizing fantasy. The sex industry catering to Westerners is constructed around selling not only the flesh, but what Sheridan Prasso calls the "Asian Mystique...the fantasy of the exotic, indulging, decadent, sensual Oriental who will indulge you and delight you with the decadence and servility that no women in your own culture could." This fetishization of Asian women causes many women to wonder whether a Western suitor is interested in her as a person, or in the expectations surrounding the Asian Mystique.
It's true that independence and power is valued more highly in Western women, whereas Eastern values traditionally emphasize community and social harmony, and are unfortunately more patriarchal. This may influence the behavioral traits of some Asian women. However, men sometimes take this to feel "remasculated" in their interactions and perceptions of Asian women because they can experience feelings of dominance, power, and wealth (real or imagined) — especially in Asia, where some women cater to these fantasies for personal gain, or associate with Western men as a status symbol. There's fantasy built into the idea of dating a Westerner, too, which makes them appealing to Asian women; the stigma goes both ways. On the other hand, there's also a common notion among more affluent Asian women that the only men who hang around chasing women in Asia are just "creepy losers" that can't find a girl back home.
I know, it sounds terrible, doesn't it? While we all know that the "Creepy White Dude" does exist, these notions feed dehumanizing stereotypes that prevent mutual respect, and taint those interracial relationships founded on mutual love and respect due to judgment passed by others. The fact is, each person is attracted to certain characteristics in a prospective mate, whether they are physical, cultural, or behavioral. Who's to say the attraction is based only on fantasy? A bit of fantasy can be beneficial in relationships. It's unfair to pass judgment on a person for race and culture-related characteristics they find desirable based on the color of their skin.
As I mentioned before, a stigma exists toward Asian women who date Western men, which also casts interracial dating in a poor light. They are condemned as being social climbers, materialistic, and superficial. However, that, too, is a stereotype, and some of the reasons Asian women prefer to date Western men extend beyond perceived social status or physical attraction. Sexism has, in fact, been an integral part of Asian society since its origin, and is still prevalent in Asian societies. Asian women may prefer pairing with Western men because they feel like they are treated more as an equal, and enjoy greater independence in a relationship. Moreso in Asian cultures, men feel threatened when a woman's abilities, talent, and social status exceeds their own. I'm sure there are plenty of Asian and Asian-American men who do not adhere to patriarchal beliefs, but there's no denying the inherent values embedded within certain cultures that may shape a woman's preferences.
There's another prospect to consider: Asian men in Western media have the unfortunate tendency to be depicted as being nerdy, feminine, comical, and shy. That, or kung-fu masters (which I find hot, but perpetuates an annoying stereotype). Older men are portrayed as being conservative and patriarchal. They are often desexualized and portrayed as not belonging in America. Although it's changing, there simply aren't very many positive representations of Asian men in Western culture, and this negative image may very well affect the perceptions of Asian women living in the West.
I've only ever dated one Asian man, and we were teenagers at the time — but it's certainly not because I find Asian men undesirable, or that I felt controlled by men. However, my trend of dating Western men had a lot more to do with the culture around my personal interests. Growing up in Taiwan, most of my Asian peers were much more engrossed in their studies and into mainstream culture than going to punk concerts, watching experimental film, and dressing up like Marie Antoinette. Today, my interests are much more broad, but the long-term relationships I've held in the past decade of my life has precluded further investigation.
What have your experiences of interracial dating been? As an Asian woman, have you ever felt a man was attracted to you for their Asian fantasy? Or, have you ever suffered from the stigma of being an Asiaphile for dating an Asian man or woman? Please share your thoughts.
Do Asian Women Prefer White Men? by Steven Lin Steven Lin is an Asian dating consultant based in New York City. He is the author of the dating book, Advanced Asian.
It’s common to hear Asian men complain that Asian women prefer White men, or that certain girls only date White men. This topic has been debated on for years, and my article will not prove things one way or the other. However, I do have some logical arguments for why I believe that the vast majority of Asian women actually DO NOT prefer White men.
First I’ll say that there are going to be a percentage of women (not just Asian) that do prefer to date white men. But this also doesn’t mean that she will exclusively date White men. Being white to these women is just a preference. Just like for some men, they may have a preference for large breasts. But like a man who has a preference for large breasts, a woman can overlook this preference if other criteria are met. Also a great number of women who have exclusively dated White men just haven’t even met enough Asian men (there is only a 6% population of Asians in the USA after all). If you moved her to Asia, would she still have these preferences? It’s hard to tell.
The next thing I want to look at is the number of Asian women (who have had over three partners) that have exclusively dated White men. This percentage is incredibly low, and while I don’t have an exact percentage, I have talked to and discussed this issue with numerous Asian women across the United States and the world. Most Asian women who have dated White men have also dated an Asian man. This proves that you can’t simply say an Asian woman has a “preference” for a White man just because she is dating a White man.
Next, I’ll speak about the total amount of Asian women in the States who have dated a White male. This is a large percentage, but it reflects the fact that there are more White men in the states than Asian men. Similarly, you’d find that in Asia, there is an equally high percentage of White females who have immigrated there to be dating Asian men. This makes sense because Asian women have a bigger pool to choose from that are White, and therefore, for desirable Asian females, they will choose the most desirable mate.
To illustrate my last point. Let’s pretend that there is a pool of 100 men and 94 of these men are White (or if you prefer to be more similar to the demographics of the states, non-Asian). A mere 6 of these men are Asian. An Asian female must go into this pool to choose a mate. The chances are that the higher quality men are in the group of non-Asians. This is an illustration of the demographics of the United States. Only 6% of the population in the States is Asian. Sometimes a woman may have grown up in a town where there was only one or two other Asian families. The natural choice there, is to go with a White man or a man of another race.
The conclusion is this. Humans are evolutionary creatures. We do mate based on certain desirable traits. It’s not that Asian men don’t have these traits. It’s just that there’s not enough of Asian men in the States. Therefore, it’s not that Asian women prefer White men, it’s just that they prefer to date the man with the better and more desirable traits.
Zhang Ziyi isn’t dating Vivi because he’s white. It’s because he has desirable traits. In this case, wealth.
So what does this mean for Asian men?
First of all, stop complaining. There are going to be Asian female, White male couples. Just like there will be some Asian male, White female couples (rising numbers in fact). By complaining, you are declaring yourself weaker or inferior to someone who is white. Stop this thinking.
You need to instead, decide how you can improve yourself. More game. More guts. More wealth even. You need to learn how to connect with a woman, to create deeper attraction. Instead, most of you are simply saying, “I Give Up! White guys are always going to be better than me.” Don’t do this. I want to recommend checking out my book, Advanced Asian, for some further help specifically targeted towards Asian men.
Of course, there is another argument in favor of the fact that Asian women prefer White men. It’s that overall, Asian men are just less desirable than other races. So this statement arguing that if there was a group of 100 men, 50 Asian men and 50 White men, the White men will have more desirable evolutionary traits. I will talk about this argument in my next segment, “Are Asian Men Less Desirable?”
And remember, if you’re an Asian man who needs help with dating and you still haven’t read my book, Advanced Asian, pick it up. It will absolutely transform your dating life or your money back.
once again as we can see, a racist White HISP cop, hath decided to use a pro-Black website to advocate for Whitefolks'. Yepper. Now you again, see why, I said the other day that it is a good thing that increase in anti-cop rhetoric from all members...hath did us a huuuge favor and caused a racist White HISP cop to login to AFN, less and less.
There is a lot of stereotyping on Asian and white women, especially with the Asian, with the number one of them being they being submissive and accommodating to men. Well whether that's true or not of Asian women I don't personally know, but I know for a fact is not true of white women. Point one.
And point two,
The bottom line is simply this... A man looking for a weak submissive woman is nothing but a childish fool. With black men it's nothing really but a bogus excuse over the real reason, which is they simply want someone lighter in complexion and with straighter hair than a black woman. Because I see plenty of black men with non black women who aren't submissive at all.
And those men appear to be happy as a lark with. So with this lot, when it comes to black women, it's always, the default you won't submit, you won't suck my ass, which is a bullshit excuse for why they really want out of the race.
once again as we can see, a racist White HISP cop, hath decided to use a pro-Black website to advocate for Whitefolks'. Yepper. Now you again, see why, I said the other day that it is a good thing that increase in anti-cop rhetoric from all members...hath did us a huuuge favor and caused a racist White HISP cop to login to AFN, less and less.
So hungry for attention, that you are.
All that rhetoric, from a guy who defended a poster with a John Wayne avatar dropping n-bombs on a pro-black website.
You accuse me of wanting Brad to be attacked for having a different POV, yet here you are attacking me for not posting content that appeals to you.
Doctor Saul Santiago
Mar 17 2015, 10:58 AM
emotions' SOLE controller
Mar 17 2015, 02:19 AM
Doctor Saul Santiago
Mar 16 2015, 01:29 PM
Doctor Saul Santiago
Mar 13 2015, 02:30 PM
Take a look at this thread, started by a poster with racist tendencies.
Note how not a single person who posted there......had anything to say to him.
Blacks are upset with this Oklahoma fraternity for calling black people niggers, as seen in this video. But I want you to look at all 3 of these videos.
But black people don't say anything when rappers call black people niggers. You can't have a double standard.
This rapper is talking about shooting black people, and black people are not speaking out against this.
No responses to this post, I see.
This is the head-scratcher, for me....
Well, then, stop attacking that member because he doesn't see the world in the same way as you do, then it won't be a head-scratcher for you anymore...lol...you fuccn shytbag hypocrite.
You confused little menstruation cycler...you look dumb as fucc in here, wanting people to attack Brad for not seeing the world in the way Doc Saul sees it----at the same time you complain about people being attacked for seeing the world differently than others.
You are a deceitful White HISP cop who just now posted nothing, whatsoever, which shows me using a pro-Black website to uplift Caucasoid's well being as they do not relate to Black people.
You quoted me in a display of merely using Brad's anti-Black words to highlight your vile wretched, hypocrisy, Whereas this thread you have created here today...shows no connection to Black people, whatsoever, and fortunately all readers can see that. Therefore, thanks. For once again making my job, easier, when it comes to ensuring all readers are able to identify you for what you are whenever you login to sabotage pro-Black websites.
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