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Marriage is in decline in America
Topic Started: Jul 17 2015, 01:41 AM (2,366 Views)
kennyinbmore
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Jul 27 2015, 02:30 PM
I love it/your unique way of showing you can't handle it when you get proven wrong.
Hey you agreed with me, I'm good :D
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Ronroyce

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Jul 27 2015, 02:09 PM
kennyinbmore
Jul 27 2015, 12:30 PM
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Jul 26 2015, 04:36 PM
yey, they're usually the ones who know it makes no sense to go through life with a bunch of partners ... and then when you find one to share you entire, life, you have to protect all material wealth or assets you both worked hard for.


Institution of Marriage provides the most efficient, problem-free road to that peace of mind.
Until the inevitable divorce happens and she takes half
yey, for sure.

How dare her think she deserves, half, after she did nothing but...

-spending decades waking dude up every morning,
-cooking his hot breakfast,
-keeping his work uniform on point,
-fixing his lunchpail up real nice
-cleaning his home all day/running errands/handling fam business
-bearing his children through gut-wrenching pains of labor and child birth
-raise his children into model citizens, while he's at work everyday for 30 years


...man0man kennyinbmore, your reasoning is getting more irresponsibly-irrational each day...
Yeah.. that's providing she does all those things..

But there are those who are not even faithful... who dont do any of the following u listed (except gave birth) and still expect half of your fortune..

Too many people love the idea of being married but are aversive to reality of what it means to be married..

From my knowledge, I think surrogate mothers (that are in great physical and mental health) charge 25-30K to give birth and u get to keep your kid..

Maybe something along those lines should be given to women that marry rich dudes
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Amber
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I believe marriage is on the decline because people are turning away from God.
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Amber
Aug 26 2015, 06:03 PM
I believe marriage is on the decline because people are turning away from God.
This is true, to an extent. There isn't any benefit to getting married, according to the young folks at the Center. Why marry when it's socially & culturally acceptable to be together without the legal side? Our government doesn't improve things, either, by charging more in taxes for married couples.

I hear many young people say they will never get married. It's disappointing.
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Aug 28 2015, 10:16 PM
Amber
Aug 26 2015, 06:03 PM
I believe marriage is on the decline because people are turning away from God.
This is true, to an extent. There isn't any benefit to getting married, according to the young folks at the Center. Why marry when it's socially & culturally acceptable to be together without the legal side? Our government doesn't improve things, either, by charging more in taxes for married couples.

I hear many young people say they will never get married. It's disappointing.
Yes, it is socially acceptable to shack up. And yes, government does hit married couples harder in the pockets during taxe time. But the reason most people get married is much more deeper than some people shadow beliefs.

Studies have proven that married couples live longer because they have someone to live for.

Married couples stabilize the family structure as well as the community in which they reside.

Married couples kids, as well as grandchildren's, develops a more healthier social life than most.



* This doesn't mean all married couples experience these positive fortunes but a good percentage of them do compared to single couples.
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VoiceofReason

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Aug 29 2015, 09:35 AM
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Aug 28 2015, 10:16 PM
Amber
Aug 26 2015, 06:03 PM
I believe marriage is on the decline because people are turning away from God.
This is true, to an extent. There isn't any benefit to getting married, according to the young folks at the Center. Why marry when it's socially & culturally acceptable to be together without the legal side? Our government doesn't improve things, either, by charging more in taxes for married couples.

I hear many young people say they will never get married. It's disappointing.
Yes, it is socially acceptable to shack up. And yes, government does hit married couples harder in the pockets during taxe time. But the reason most people get married is much more deeper than some people shadow beliefs.

Studies have proven that married couples live longer because they have someone to live for.

Married couples stabilize the family structure as well as the community in which they reside.

Married couples kids, as well as grandchildren's, develops a more healthier social life than most.



* This doesn't mean all married couples experience these positive fortunes but a good percentage of them do compared to single couples.
True, true, true and true. And even if marriages don't last forever, some of the benefits to staying married have resounding impacts.
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negroplease

Yall make marriage sound co dependent and pathetic.
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negroplease

And actually studies show while men benefit more in marriage in terms of healthwise. Women suffer under duress a whole lot more. Lol
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negroplease
Aug 31 2015, 11:04 AM
And actually studies show while men benefit more in marriage in terms of healthwise. Women suffer under duress a whole lot more. Lol
You are very disingenuous here. The only wives suffering any type of, duress, are the ones who allow themselves to be with abusive/self-centered mates...just like these women do:

Quote:
 
Lesbian Partner Violence Fact Sheet

Suzana Rose, Ph.D.
National Violence Against Women Prevention Research Center
University of Missouri at St. Louis


What is lesbian partner violence?
Partner violence in lesbian (and gay) relationships recently has been identified as an important social problem. Partner or domestic violence among lesbians has been defined as including physical, sexual and psychological abuse, although researchers have most often studied physical violence.

How common is lesbian partner violence?
About 17-45% of lesbians report having been the victim of a least one act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner (1,5,6,13). Types of physical abuse named by more than 10% of participants in one study included:
Disrupting other�s eating or sleeping habits
Pushing or shoving, driving recklessly to punish, and slapping, kicking, hitting, or biting (11).
Sexual abuse by a woman partner has been reported by up to 50% of lesbians (12).
Psychological abuse has been reported as occurring at least one time by 24% to 90% of lesbians (1,5,6,11,14).
The research usually has been done with mostly white, middle-class lesbians who are sufficiently open about their sexual orientation to have met researchers seeking participants in the lesbian community. Subsequently, these findings may not apply to women who are less open, less educated, or of other ethnic backgrounds.

Why would a lesbian batter another woman?
Lesbians who abuse another women may do so for reasons similar to those that motivate heterosexual male batterers. Lesbians abuse their partners to gain and maintain control (9). Lesbian batterers are motivated to avoid feelings of loss and abandonment. Therefore, many violent incidents occur during threatened separations. Many lesbian batterers grew up in violent households and were physically, sexually, or verbally abused and/or witnessed their mothers being abused by fathers or stepfathers (6,7,14).

How is lesbian partner violence different from heterosexual partner violence?
There are several similarities between lesbian and heterosexual partner violence. Violence appears to be about as common among lesbian couples as among heterosexual couples (1,5). In addition, the cycle of violence occurs in both types of relationships. However, there also are several differences.

In lesbian relationships, the "butch" (physically stronger, more masculine or wage-earning) member of the couple may be as likely to be the victim as the batterer, whereas in heterosexual relationships, the male partner (usually the stronger, more masculine, and wage-earning member) is most often the batterer (4). Some lesbians in abusive relationships report fighting back in their relationship (6,8).

In addition, a unique element for lesbians is the homophobic environment that surrounds them (4,10,14). This enables the abusive partner to exert "heterosexist control" over the victim by threatening to "out" the victim to friends, family, or employer or threatening to make reports to authorities that would jeopardize child custody, immigration, or legal status. The homophobic environment also makes it difficult for the victim to seek help from the police, victim service agencies, and battered women's shelters.

What legal rights do battered lesbians have?
In some states, police are required to treat cases of lesbian domestic violence the same way as they do heterosexual domestic violence. Many states have mandatory arrest laws that require the police to arrest the batterer in certain situations; this applies to lesbian and heterosexual batterers alike. Batterers can be prosecuted in a criminal court. Survivors may be entitled to an order of protection, a court order that prohibits a batterer from talking to or approaching the victim.

Same-sex couples are always excluded from obtaining a protective order in seven states (Arizona, Delaware, Louisiana, Montana, New York, South Carolina, and Virginia) and often excluded in three states (Florida, Maryland, and Mississippi). These states either limit protective orders to opposite-sex couples or usually interpret the law to apply only to opposite-sex couples (2,9).

How often is lesbian partner violence reported to the police?
There are significant barriers to lesbians seeking help. Lesbian victims seldom report violent incidents to the police because many fear prejudicial treatment, and many state domestic violence laws fail to protect same-sex partners (9). Also, in cases of same-sex violence, police often assume the abuse is mutual (or believe an abuser�s claim that the abuse is mutual) and are more likely to arrest both members of the couple (14). Battered women�s agencies also may not be open to serving lesbians (2,3).

How can you help a lesbian who is the victim of partner violence?
To support a lesbian who is the target of partner violence:
Let her know that she can call you for help. Help her develop a safety plan concerning how she will get out if she needs to leave quickly, including having a bag prepared and easily accessible with essential documents (including identification, money, and anything else that might be needed), and arranging a place to stay in an emergency. Give her the keys to your house. Don�t give up and don�t criticize her or turn her away because she doesn�t leave right away.

If you are in a city that has an Anti-Violence Project connected to the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (http://www.avp.org), tell her about the services of your local AVP (9). Many AVPs provide counseling, advocacy with the police and criminal justice system and support groups. Some therapists specialize in lesbian partner abuse, as well (3).
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negroplease
Aug 31 2015, 11:04 AM
And actually studies show while men benefit more in marriage in terms of healthwise. Women suffer under duress a whole lot more. Lol
Men may benefit health wise until they get hit in the pocket with the inevitable divorce.

HALF!!!!!!! I'll take half his shit!!!! :D :D :D :D
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