NYPD Office Boxes w/ Suspect In Harlem

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NYPD Office Boxes w/ Suspect In Harlem
Topic Started: Jul 3 2015, 12:32 PM (1,035 Views)
Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 3 2015, 05:00 PM Post #11
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	emotions' SOLE controller Jul 3 2015, 04:15 PM Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 3 2015, 01:43 PM Naturally, the investigation for this incident is ongoing. I would say it is probably not a great ideal to walk around with warrants while carrying a visible weapon. I found it odd that he would try to walk away after leaving his ID. I would also say it is not a great notion to pull out the weapon that garnered the attention of police in the first place while resisting arrest. He could have lost his life. If the evidence shows the officers in the wrong, it would dispel the notion that black officers are incapable of police abuse. that's really too bad Doc Saul...that you felt it was best to not answer my, question, about your thoughts on if the state of NY could determine that a non-violent suspect deserved to be punched like that? You may want to read the articles, and the post you quoted, again. Anything can happen when an armed suspect is resisting arrest. As was clearly stated, he did not have the right to resist arrest. Had he been more discreet with concealing his knife, he may have gone unnoticed. Had he complied completely after being detained, instead of walking away defiantly (which he did not have the right to do), the physical altercation would not have happened. Having two warrants would explain his uncooperative nature. He could have avoided this.



U Thant	Jul 3 2015, 05:15 PM Post #12
Posts: 27,225 Group: Members Member #2,279 Joined: Mar 30, 2014	Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 3 2015, 05:00 PM Anything can happen when an armed suspect is resisting arrest. Anything???? you mean including "anything" that---is not even occurring? Wow. So a suspect can have a weapon now while, clearly, seeking no violence with it? And that becomes reason enough for cops to brutalize suspects? Wow. well Hopefully for you Doc the state of NY is able to ignore the little meaningless, fact, that the suspect has video proof showing he was doing everything to prevent violence. Although I can understand him being darkskinned is supposed to impact your Law Enforcement reasoning, still, I hope for the sake of law enforcement you enjoy...the state of NY will disregard this suspect's refusal to get violent---then let this cop go free.



Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 3 2015, 05:31 PM Post #13
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	emotions' SOLE controller Jul 3 2015, 05:15 PM Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 3 2015, 05:00 PM Anything can happen when an armed suspect is resisting arrest. Anything???? you mean including "anything" that---is not even occurring? Wow. So a suspect can have a weapon now while, clearly, seeking no violence with it? And that becomes reason enough for cops to brutalize suspects? Wow. well Hopefully for you Doc the state of NY is able to ignore the little meaningless, fact, that the suspect has video proof showing he was doing everything to prevent violence. Although I can understand him being darkskinned is supposed to impact your Law Enforcement reasoning, still, I hope for the sake of law enforcement you enjoy...the state of NY will disregard this suspect's refusal to get violent---then let this cop go free. You are free to ignore the whole resisting arrest thing which was probably due to having two warrants. He was already under arrest for the criminal possession of a weapon. You don't decide to go home after that. He knew he would have to answer those outstanding warrants. Once under arrest, you have to comply. Once in custody, his lawyer can help sort things out. The whole altercation came from him resisting arrest.



U Thant	Jul 3 2015, 05:54 PM Post #14
Posts: 27,225 Group: Members Member #2,279 Joined: Mar 30, 2014	Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 3 2015, 05:31 PM You are free to ignore the whole resisting arrest thing Oh no, I would never ignore any attempt of a human resisting arrest. But I see no arrest being attempted, and that is the legal issue here for me. Maybe it's just that I have comprehension challenges in this ordeal. For instance, when I see a cop in the vid antagonizing and instigating a humans with violence for the length of half a city block... and punching suspect several times without trying to arrest him and also taking a MMA stance against the suspect who was trying to avoid violence---before the suspect finally was cornered into joining in with the violence; -it becomes a bit hard to see where this cop was trying to arrest someone -it becomes easy to see where this cop was merely looking to assault & battery an unarmed person---while he brandished a firearm on his waist. -it becomes easy to see where this cop had a feeling of "protecting" the NYC Police protocol for darkskinned-Blacks



Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 5 2015, 03:20 PM Post #15
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	Quote: Harlem man caught sparring with NYPD cop had knife dangling from pocket, 'pushed' officer during arrest: officials BY SHAYNA JACOBS , THOMAS TRACY NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, July 4, 2015, 12:55 AM Saykou George, 30, is facing assault, resisting arrest and weapons possession charges following the 1:15 p.m. interaction with plainclothes cops on Frederick Douglass Blvd. near W. 129th St. on Wednesday. The Harlem man caught on a viral video sparring with a police officer had a knife dangling out of his pants pocket and "pushed" a cop repeatedly as he was being taken into custody, officials said Friday. Saykou George, 30, is facing assault, resisting arrest and weapons possession charges following the 1:15 p.m. interaction with plainclothes cops on Frederick Douglass Blvd. near W. 129th St. on Wednesday. Cops were arresting George for having the knife when he balked and began shoving them away, officials said. He also punched one of the cops, leaving the officer bruised. The NYPD is investigating the cell-phone video of the interaction, which shows a cop getting into a boxing stance and landing three blows to George's one. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/harlem-man-caught-sparring-nypd-knife-official-article-1.2281121 Edited by Doctor Magnus Warlock, Jul 5 2015, 03:21 PM.



U Thant	Jul 5 2015, 03:44 PM Post #16
Posts: 27,225 Group: Members Member #2,279 Joined: Mar 30, 2014	Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 5 2015, 03:20 PM Cool pic, Doc Saul. It like how it keeps my memory sharp as I reflect on how its that same pose which some celeb Black sports pundit pointed out that White America's photogs enjoy capturing, of darkskinned-Blacks. I heard it reminds Whites of how Blacks looked when Whites' ancestors would open fuselage doors to see darkskinned-negroes screaming from the belly of Slave ships. You seem to ge a good student of that type of Imagery indeed pal. Nice homework. although I do wish you had been more cordial to me Doc, when I respectfully addressed your claim. You know, to help me out here since I see no arrest being attempted, was the legal issue here for me. Like I said, in case I have comprehension challenges in this ordeal. Especially since I got pvt-msg from a few folks who read this exchange and said I had an unique-perspective on it---that I should consider FWD it to the NYC investigative body here. For instance, like when I said I see a cop not trying to subdue/handcuff a suspect but instead in the vid I see a cop antagonizing and instigating a human with violence for the length of half a city block... and punching suspect several times without trying to arrest him and also taking a MMA stance against the suspect who was trying to avoid violence---before the suspect finally was cornered into joining in with the violence; -it becomes a bit hard to see where this cop was trying to arrest someone -it becomes easy to see where this cop was merely looking to assault & battery an unarmed person---while he brandished a firearm on his waist. -it becomes easy to see where this cop had a feeling of "protecting" the NYC Police protocol for darkskinned-Blacks I bet you would have had some rrrrrreal interesting challenges too Doc Saul, sir, had you taken the time to output some.



Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 5 2015, 04:12 PM Post #17
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	Looking at the video, I see Saykou George seeking to remove himself after being caught for carrying a weapon. Rarely does someone get to walk away after being seen carrying a weapon. It was George that pushed the officer away when the officer reached out for his arms. George continued his defiance when the female officer tried to hand cuff him. As was stated before, when you are under arrest, it is best to physically comply. Any resistance may result in physical injury, or additional charges being added.



U Thant	Jul 5 2015, 04:17 PM Post #18
Posts: 27,225 Group: Members Member #2,279 Joined: Mar 30, 2014	Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 5 2015, 04:12 PM Looking at the video, I see Saykou George seeking to remove himself after being caught for carrying a weapon. exactly. and at that point, he was unarmed. which means the cop was no longer in threat of his life. so the perp should've been promptly subdued/arrested instead of challenged to a fist fight for the length of half-a-city-block as according to our own eyes.



Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 5 2015, 04:40 PM Post #19
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	emotions' SOLE controller Jul 5 2015, 04:17 PM Doctor Saul Santiago Jul 5 2015, 04:12 PM Looking at the video, I see Saykou George seeking to remove himself after being caught for carrying a weapon. exactly. and at that point, he was unarmed. which means the cop was no longer in threat of his life. so the perp should've been promptly subdued/arrested instead of challenged to a fist fight for the length of half-a-city-block as according to our own eyes. George was seen with a knife. He caught the attention of the cops because the knife was visible to the naked eye. Officers detained George. He was going to be arrested for carrying the knife. When the officer reached for his hands to subdue him, George became aggressive (by pushing the officer), and sought to leave the scene. No officer will let a civilian with an unauthorized weapon walk away, as George tried to do. George was the aggressor.



Doctor Magnus Warlock	Jul 5 2015, 05:12 PM Post #20
Posts: 28,451 Group: Members Member #716 Joined: Dec 9, 2010	Quote: NYC Cop Throws Fists To Protect Female Partner From Knife-Wielding Suspect [VIDEO] CHRISTIAN DATOC Reporter 12:26 PM 07/03/2015 A video surfaced Thursday of an NYPD officer using force to protect his female partner from a hostile-suspect resisting arrest. Police officers had stopped Saykou George whom, according to the New York Post, they had seen carrying a blade in plain-sight. After having his ID checked by the officers, George — who had two outstanding warrants and a history of violence — began to grow increasingly belligerent, eventually lashing out at the female officer when she tried to place him in handcuffs. http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/03/nyc-cop-throws-fists-to-protect-female-partner-from-knife-wielding-suspect-video/



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