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IRAN, RUSSIA SAID TO SEAL $20B DEAL
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Enigma
Apr 6 2014, 08:14 PM
... this is a new kind of deal, the likes of which hasn't occurred before...

Nope.

That is in fact impossible since this mission indeed launched, in 2009, and does feature 2012 & 2013 with actual events of Int'l dollar-less deals between these BRIC's nations. And don't forget too "some here" realize that this talk of replacing the dollar as form of payment for oil, is nothing, compared to the overall nucleus behind abandoning USA currency;

WW3!
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Apr 6 2014, 09:03 PM
Enigma
Apr 6 2014, 08:14 PM
... this is a new kind of deal, the likes of which hasn't occurred before...

Nope.

That is in fact impossible since this mission indeed launched, in 2009, and does feature 2012 & 2013 with actual events of Int'l dollar-less deals between these BRIC's nations. And don't forget too "some here" realize that this talk of replacing the dollar as form of payment for oil, is nothing, compared to the overall nucleus behind abandoning USA currency;

WW3!
LOL, I love it when the forum sees how incompetent some responses are. It's an indication of what kind of tactics to reject. They must know that being inept at backing foolish statements can't be covered up by changing the narrative. It's a stupid tactic used by those of lesser mental capabilities. Hence the use here. :D
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You all must certainly make notice of the fact that my challenge has gone unanswered. Which is "show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal". The responses are purely stupid, because they have no credible response.
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Enigma
Apr 6 2014, 11:19 AM
Truthie
Apr 6 2014, 10:52 AM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 09:10 PM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:04 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.
Your example doesn't address my statement and you've thus shown me nothing but your ability to blow hot air. Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal, that's at issue.
http://www.examiner.com/article/dollar-no-longer-primary-oil-currency-as-china-begins-to-sell-oil-using-yuan

You could've looked this up yourself...or is it that you really want to believe this is new? :D

Here are a couple of excerpts:

On Sept. 11, Pastor Lindsey Williams, former minister to the global oil companies during the building of the Alaskan pipeline, announced the most significant event to affect the U.S. dollar since its inception as a currency. For the first time since the 1970's, when Henry Kissenger forged a trade agreement with the Royal house of Saud to sell oil using only U.S. dollars, China announced its intention to bypass the dollar for global oil customers and began selling the commodity using their own currency.

Lindsey Williams: "The most significant day in the history of the American dollar, since its inception, happened on Thursday, Sept. 6. On that day, something took place that is going to affect your life, your family, your dinner table more than you can possibly imagine."

"On Thursday, Sept. 6... just a few days ago, China made the official announcement. China said on that day, our banking system is ready, all of our communication systems are ready, all of the transfer systems are ready, and as of that day, Thursday, Sept. 6, any nation in the world that wishes from this point on, to buy, sell, or trade crude oil, can do using the Chinese currency, not the American dollar."
This is a new sort of deal. This isn't a case of selling a shipment of oil for gold or goods. This is an enormous deal, the likes of which hasn't occurred previously.



LOL, I'm always amused at how individuals who make statements and can't back them up, try to change the narrative to suit their lack of anything substantive. This is a new kind of deal, a $20 billion deal, the like of which you haven't seen before, just like I said. You took issue with that, yet you still haven't produced any deal that can even approximate that one. You continue to blow smoke and play a childish game of semantics, attempting to play on the words "new kind of deal". The result is that you look increasingly foolish to effectively deny my truth, yet you bunglers can't do what I challenged you to do, which is to show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal. You characters are so full of crap it ain't funny. :D
You asked me to show "similar" deals. I did.

You asked me to show non-dollar deals. I did.

No matter how you choose to pretend I didn't back up what I said about this being the continuation of a pattern, it's still, clearly, a pattern.

Your refusal to connect the dots simply shows this is all new to YOU, and you are merely regurgitating what you heard.
Smh.

I thought we could have a conversation about it but you just want to be right, the bell-ringer, the whistle-blower. Ok. Ding ding. Good for you. Thanks for informing us.

Anything else you'd like to add? Perhaps a prediction as to what this means?
Edited by VoiceofReason, Apr 6 2014, 09:30 PM.
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Truthie
Apr 6 2014, 09:29 PM
Enigma
Apr 6 2014, 11:19 AM
Truthie
Apr 6 2014, 10:52 AM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 09:10 PM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:04 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.
Your example doesn't address my statement and you've thus shown me nothing but your ability to blow hot air. Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal, that's at issue.
http://www.examiner.com/article/dollar-no-longer-primary-oil-currency-as-china-begins-to-sell-oil-using-yuan

You could've looked this up yourself...or is it that you really want to believe this is new? :D

Here are a couple of excerpts:

On Sept. 11, Pastor Lindsey Williams, former minister to the global oil companies during the building of the Alaskan pipeline, announced the most significant event to affect the U.S. dollar since its inception as a currency. For the first time since the 1970's, when Henry Kissenger forged a trade agreement with the Royal house of Saud to sell oil using only U.S. dollars, China announced its intention to bypass the dollar for global oil customers and began selling the commodity using their own currency.

Lindsey Williams: "The most significant day in the history of the American dollar, since its inception, happened on Thursday, Sept. 6. On that day, something took place that is going to affect your life, your family, your dinner table more than you can possibly imagine."

"On Thursday, Sept. 6... just a few days ago, China made the official announcement. China said on that day, our banking system is ready, all of our communication systems are ready, all of the transfer systems are ready, and as of that day, Thursday, Sept. 6, any nation in the world that wishes from this point on, to buy, sell, or trade crude oil, can do using the Chinese currency, not the American dollar."
This is a new sort of deal. This isn't a case of selling a shipment of oil for gold or goods. This is an enormous deal, the likes of which hasn't occurred previously.



LOL, I'm always amused at how individuals who make statements and can't back them up, try to change the narrative to suit their lack of anything substantive. This is a new kind of deal, a $20 billion deal, the like of which you haven't seen before, just like I said. You took issue with that, yet you still haven't produced any deal that can even approximate that one. You continue to blow smoke and play a childish game of semantics, attempting to play on the words "new kind of deal". The result is that you look increasingly foolish to effectively deny my truth, yet you bunglers can't do what I challenged you to do, which is to show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal. You characters are so full of crap it ain't funny. :D
You asked me to show "similar" deals. I did.

You asked me to show non-dollar deals. I did.

No matter how you choose to pretend I didn't back up what I said about this being the continuation of a pattern, it's still, clearly, a pattern.
Your refusal to connect the dots simply shows this is all new to YOU, and you are merely regurgitating what you heard.
Smh.

I thought we could have a conversation about it but you just want to be right, the bell-ringer, the whistle-blower. Ok. Ding ding. Good for you. Thanks for informing us.

Anything else you'd like to add? Perhaps a prediction as to what this means?
You've shown me nothing. Show me the deal or quit bullshitting.
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As I figured, another bullshitter. ;)
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Truthie
Apr 6 2014, 09:29 PM
Enigma
Apr 6 2014, 11:19 AM
Truthie
Apr 6 2014, 10:52 AM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 09:10 PM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:04 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.
Your example doesn't address my statement and you've thus shown me nothing but your ability to blow hot air. Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal, that's at issue.
http://www.examiner.com/article/dollar-no-longer-primary-oil-currency-as-china-begins-to-sell-oil-using-yuan

You could've looked this up yourself...or is it that you really want to believe this is new? :D

Here are a couple of excerpts:

On Sept. 11, Pastor Lindsey Williams, former minister to the global oil companies during the building of the Alaskan pipeline, announced the most significant event to affect the U.S. dollar since its inception as a currency. For the first time since the 1970's, when Henry Kissenger forged a trade agreement with the Royal house of Saud to sell oil using only U.S. dollars, China announced its intention to bypass the dollar for global oil customers and began selling the commodity using their own currency.

Lindsey Williams: "The most significant day in the history of the American dollar, since its inception, happened on Thursday, Sept. 6. On that day, something took place that is going to affect your life, your family, your dinner table more than you can possibly imagine."

"On Thursday, Sept. 6... just a few days ago, China made the official announcement. China said on that day, our banking system is ready, all of our communication systems are ready, all of the transfer systems are ready, and as of that day, Thursday, Sept. 6, any nation in the world that wishes from this point on, to buy, sell, or trade crude oil, can do using the Chinese currency, not the American dollar."
This is a new sort of deal. This isn't a case of selling a shipment of oil for gold or goods. This is an enormous deal, the likes of which hasn't occurred previously.



LOL, I'm always amused at how individuals who make statements and can't back them up, try to change the narrative to suit their lack of anything substantive. This is a new kind of deal, a $20 billion deal, the like of which you haven't seen before, just like I said. You took issue with that, yet you still haven't produced any deal that can even approximate that one. You continue to blow smoke and play a childish game of semantics, attempting to play on the words "new kind of deal". The result is that you look increasingly foolish to effectively deny my truth, yet you bunglers can't do what I challenged you to do, which is to show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal. You characters are so full of crap it ain't funny. :D
You asked me to show "similar" deals. I did.

You asked me to show non-dollar deals. I did.

No matter how you choose to pretend I didn't back up what I said about this being the continuation of a pattern, it's still, clearly, a pattern.

Your refusal to connect the dots simply shows this is all new to YOU, and you are merely regurgitating what you heard.
Smh.

I thought we could have a conversation about it but you just want to be right, the bell-ringer, the whistle-blower. Ok. Ding ding. Good for you. Thanks for informing us.

Anything else you'd like to add? Perhaps a prediction as to what this means?
shyt's forest-FIYAH!
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...plus...

as mr. Israeli waddles in delusions...I give you full props, Tru, for back in 2012 when you were first on AFN to intro the renewed BRIC's intensity to abolish the dollar from their lives...and all, for the inevitable;


WW3!
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...plus...

as mr. Israeli waddles in delusions...I give you full props, Tru, for back in 2012 when you were first on AFN to intro the renewed BRIC's intensity to abolish the dollar from their lives...and all, for the inevitable;


WW3!
Are you referring to me little man? If so you'd better watch your name calling. Who do you think you are?

Tell me, are you upset that you and the little lady can't meet my challenge? I can understand the impotent feeling that being you inspires. Just remember that everyone can't be blessed with a great mind, and someone has to possess the reject variety. If you're smart, you'll save all of my posts and comments, study them and hope to know just a fraction of what I know. ;)
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