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IRAN, RUSSIA SAID TO SEAL $20B DEAL
Topic Started: Apr 4 2014, 01:16 AM (2,486 Views)
Enigma

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Apr 5 2014, 11:11 AM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 10:08 AM
... it must hurt your punk ass that I make the threads that I do...
Not me. I like how you make the threads that you make. Afterall, False or misleading info can't be corrected, until it's posted. True?

So keep posting my friend, and I will keep enlightening you.
LOL, I like you, you're a funny guy. :D
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You're a pretty good dude yourself...
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Apr 5 2014, 11:33 AM.
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Enigma

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Apr 5 2014, 11:33 AM
You're a pretty good dude yourself...
You seem to like this subject, so for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2MFAW547uQ
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VoiceofReason

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Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.
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VoiceofReason

As I said:
Truthie
Apr 4 2014, 10:20 AM
This situation, cutting America out of these types of agreements, has been occurring more and more.

Not new. It's a continuation.

But I don't think "newness" matters. I believe most people are not aware that Russia and China are (more and more) buddy-buddy.

As I've asked for conversations sake on this site before - who has America's back? I think we "Americans" are slightly overconfident. Not that I have doubts, but I think a healthy dose of pessimism makes one careful.
Edited by VoiceofReason, Apr 5 2014, 02:16 PM.
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Enigma

Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:04 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.
Your example doesn't address my statement and you've thus shown me nothing but your ability to blow hot air. Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal, that's at issue.
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Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:06 PM
As I said:
Truthie
Apr 4 2014, 10:20 AM
This situation, cutting America out of these types of agreements, has been occurring more and more.

Not new. It's a continuation.

But I don't think "newness" matters. I believe most people are not aware that Russia and China are (more and more) buddy-buddy.

As I've asked for conversations sake on this site before - who has America's back? I think we "Americans" are slightly overconfident. Not that I have doubts, but I think a healthy dose of pessimism makes one careful.
"Newness"? That's your vernacular. I said to show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal, Problem is you cannot, so you blow smoke.
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Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 09:10 PM
... Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal...


Iran embarked on this 2 years ago, for starters, and there may be even earlier proof: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-17203132


Here's another ordeal: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/11/iran-accepts-payment-on-gold-to-get.html
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Enigma

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Apr 5 2014, 09:23 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 09:10 PM
... Show me a similar non-dollar denominated oil deal...


Iran embarked on this 2 years ago, for starters, and there may be even earlier proof: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-17203132


Here's another ordeal: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/11/iran-accepts-payment-on-gold-to-get.html
You don't expect me to pull those links up and look for what? I see you like to blow smoke too. So much for your example.
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Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 02:04 PM
Enigma
Apr 5 2014, 03:30 AM
Truthie
Apr 5 2014, 03:06 AM
It's not new.

The real issue here is the sanctions component.

The bartering part of it is kind of funny to me. They're supposedly going to barter, but they're still quantifying everything in dollars. *snicker snicker snicker*
Show me a similar deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4828244.stm
http://www.cnpc.com.cn/en/cnpcworldwide/russia/?COLLCC=179854062&

Since 2003, CNPC has signed agreements with Sakhalin Energy, Lukoil and Rosneft in the fields of oil trade, petroleum exploration and development, and oilfield service and engineering.

In October 2006, CNPC and Rosneft jointly established Vostok Energy Ltd., in which CNPC has a 49% stake. In August 2007, Vostok Energy Ltd. won an auction for licenses to explore for oil and gas in two eastern Siberian blocks in North Irkutsk Province of Russia — Verkhneichersky and West Chonsky. We completed drilling and encountered oil and gas shows in exploration well West Chonsky-1 in 2010.

Cooperation in the oil and gas business is deepening between China and Russia.

In 2008, CNPC and Transneft signed an agreement in principle on the construction and operation of a crude pipeline from Skovorodino in Russia to Mohe at the Sino-Russian border. According to the agreement, China and Russia will jointly construct and operate the Russia-China Crude Pipeline based on the Phase I project of Russia's Far East Pipeline.

In 2009, CNPC signed “The Contract on Construction and Operation of the Crude Oil Pipeline from Skovorodino to the Russia-China Border” with Transneft, as well as agreements with Rosneft and Transneft respectively for long-term crude trade. Under the agreements, Russia will supply 15 million tons of crude to China each of the 20 years of the contract term. Construction of the Russian section and Chinese section (Mohe-Daqing) began in April and May, 2009, respectively.

In 2010, the Russia-China Crude Pipeline became operational, symbolizing a new era of our energy cooperation with Russia. We inked a general agreement with Transneft over the operation of the Russia-China Crude Pipeline that stretches from Russia's Skovorodino station to China's Mohe station, a framework agreement with Gazprom to import natural gas to China, an agreement with Rosneft on extending oil supply to the Russia-China Crude Pipeline, and an agreement with LUKoil on expanding strategic cooperation. Our 13 Mt/a joint veture refinery with Rosneft was inaugurated in Binhai New District of Tianjin in September 2010.


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