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Ferocious
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Mar 30 2014, 09:10 PM
Whozthatgurl
Mar 30 2014, 07:49 PM
Phuck the "HAS BEEN" Steven Segal. He is trying to hang on to whatever career he has and if that means kissing the asses of the Russian oligarchs, then so be it.

President Obama was so eloquent in his words when he said that Russia is really showing how weak it is by invading a smaller weaker country that was part of the former Soviet Union. Russia can't influence the Ukraine to join them so it had to resort to taking over the area Crimea that was pro-Russian from the get-go.
Feisty little Obama supporter, aren't you?
she may be feisty but she is right about how obama framed putin's actions. his actions are not of strength but of a person who is bullying it's neighbor that his country once had power over in the past. there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them.

save your bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war. Russia did't have such a debate. they invaded a region of a country that was once part of Russia.

obama twice made this point clear in front of a world audiences and that's why you now see Russia doing things like putin calling Obama about how he can resolve through diplomatic ways along with the u.s. the Ukraine crisis .
Edited by Ferocious, Mar 31 2014, 03:18 AM.
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Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM
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Mar 30 2014, 09:10 PM
Whozthatgurl
Mar 30 2014, 07:49 PM
Phuck the "HAS BEEN" Steven Segal. He is trying to hang on to whatever career he has and if that means kissing the asses of the Russian oligarchs, then so be it.

President Obama was so eloquent in his words when he said that Russia is really showing how weak it is by invading a smaller weaker country that was part of the former Soviet Union. Russia can't influence the Ukraine to join them so it had to resort to taking over the area Crimea that was pro-Russian from the get-go.
Feisty little Obama supporter, aren't you?
she may be feisty but she is right about how obama framed putin's actions. his actions are not of strength but of a person who is bullying it's neighbor that his country once had power over in the past. there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them.

save your bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war. Russia did't have such a debate. they invaded a region of a country that was once part of Russia.

obama twice made this point clear in front of a world audiences and that's why you now see Russia doing things like putin calling Obama about how he can resolve through diplomatic ways along with the u.s. the Ukraine crisis .
Interesting you would agree, however I disagree with her/your comment. Obama sounds pretty damn silly talking about countries which bully smaller and weaker countries. After all, America is world renowned for that conduct.
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Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM

...there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them... bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war.


What you posted here is indeed true. Nonetheless, as according to Geneva Convention tenets; We illegally entered into Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya, plus we helped stir the unrest in Egypt, topped off by us basically seating the coup GOVT in Kiev.

Plus all of those nations, combined, is still smaller than the USA but we still made sure our interests, I repeat, our interests reign supreme in those nations.

So It's no different, what Russia has done here with Crimea, than what the USA did in Kiev, Ukraine...when we picked those senior officials of that GOVT, so yes, Obama is speaking very hypocritically here. But hey...




all's fair when positioning oneself, in WW3 games.
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Mar 31 2014, 06:26 AM
Ferocious
Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM

...there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them... bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war.


What you posted here is indeed true. Nonetheless, as according to Geneva Convention tenets; We illegally entered into Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya, plus we helped stir the unrest in Egypt, topped off by us basically seating the coup GOVT in Kiev.

Plus all of those nations, combined, is still smaller than the USA but we still made sure our interests, I repeat, our interests reign supreme in those nations.

So It's no different, what Russia has done here with Crimea, than what the USA did in Kiev, Ukraine...when we picked those senior officials of that GOVT, so yes, Obama is speaking very hypocritically here. But hey...




all's fair when positioning oneself, in WW3 games.
We nbeed to stop this concentrating on Obama. It doesnt matter what party is in power in the U.S. Its always the same self interest which propls the country to intefere in other countries.
The U.S. has installed an unelected president in Ukraine.
Russia is defending its Russian minority living there. And Crimea wants to be part of the Russian Federation. Thats democracy.
Do we want to see American soldiers going to the Ukraine?
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Mar 31 2014, 09:39 AM
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Mar 31 2014, 06:26 AM
Ferocious
Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM

...there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them... bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war.


What you posted here is indeed true. Nonetheless, as according to Geneva Convention tenets; We illegally entered into Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya, plus we helped stir the unrest in Egypt, topped off by us basically seating the coup GOVT in Kiev.

Plus all of those nations, combined, is still smaller than the USA but we still made sure our interests, I repeat, our interests reign supreme in those nations.

So It's no different, what Russia has done here with Crimea, than what the USA did in Kiev, Ukraine...when we picked those senior officials of that GOVT, so yes, Obama is speaking very hypocritically here. But hey...




all's fair when positioning oneself, in WW3 games.
We nbeed to stop this concentrating on Obama. It doesnt matter what party is in power in the U.S. Its always the same self interest which propls the country to intefere in other countries.
The U.S. has installed an unelected president in Ukraine.
Russia is defending its Russian minority living there. And Crimea wants to be part of the Russian Federation. Thats democracy.
Do we want to see American soldiers going to the Ukraine?
the Ukrainians did not want their president who was a puppet of the Russian government in powers so protest broke out and that president fled and went into hiding and that's why you have a temporary president in the ukraine. What ever the case maybe that is ukrainians issue not Russia's. bullshit about the russian people in crimea being the reason for Putin to go into the Ukraine. If that's the case open up the Russian boarders and let those Russians into Russia.
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Mar 31 2014, 05:53 AM
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Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM
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Mar 30 2014, 09:10 PM
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Mar 30 2014, 07:49 PM
Phuck the "HAS BEEN" Steven Segal. He is trying to hang on to whatever career he has and if that means kissing the asses of the Russian oligarchs, then so be it.

President Obama was so eloquent in his words when he said that Russia is really showing how weak it is by invading a smaller weaker country that was part of the former Soviet Union. Russia can't influence the Ukraine to join them so it had to resort to taking over the area Crimea that was pro-Russian from the get-go.
Feisty little Obama supporter, aren't you?
she may be feisty but she is right about how obama framed putin's actions. his actions are not of strength but of a person who is bullying it's neighbor that his country once had power over in the past. there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them.

save your bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war. Russia did't have such a debate. they invaded a region of a country that was once part of Russia.

obama twice made this point clear in front of a world audiences and that's why you now see Russia doing things like putin calling Obama about how he can resolve through diplomatic ways along with the u.s. the Ukraine crisis .
Interesting you would agree, however I disagree with her/your comment. Obama sounds pretty damn silly talking about countries which bully smaller and weaker countries. After all, America is world renowned for that conduct.
regardless of the reason why the u.s went into other countries, what you can bet is that none of them was as silly as putin's reasons for going into crimea. because you have some pro-russian citizens who are whinning about being discriminated? fuck that move out of Ukraine and move to Russia. has America ever invaded other countries that have Americans living in them because you had American whinning about being discriminated? no.
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Obama is a murderer he has blood on his hands, Obama has killed more innocent people through drones than George Bush. Obama bombed Libya killing innocent people.

Putin doesn't have blood on his hands like Obama.
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Mar 31 2014, 05:39 PM
Enigma
Mar 31 2014, 05:53 AM
Ferocious
Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM
Enigma
Mar 30 2014, 09:10 PM
Whozthatgurl
Mar 30 2014, 07:49 PM
Phuck the "HAS BEEN" Steven Segal. He is trying to hang on to whatever career he has and if that means kissing the asses of the Russian oligarchs, then so be it.

President Obama was so eloquent in his words when he said that Russia is really showing how weak it is by invading a smaller weaker country that was part of the former Soviet Union. Russia can't influence the Ukraine to join them so it had to resort to taking over the area Crimea that was pro-Russian from the get-go.
Feisty little Obama supporter, aren't you?
she may be feisty but she is right about how obama framed putin's actions. his actions are not of strength but of a person who is bullying it's neighbor that his country once had power over in the past. there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them.

save your bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war. Russia did't have such a debate. they invaded a region of a country that was once part of Russia.

obama twice made this point clear in front of a world audiences and that's why you now see Russia doing things like putin calling Obama about how he can resolve through diplomatic ways along with the u.s. the Ukraine crisis .
Interesting you would agree, however I disagree with her/your comment. Obama sounds pretty damn silly talking about countries which bully smaller and weaker countries. After all, America is world renowned for that conduct.
regardless of the reason why the u.s went into other countries, what you can bet is that none of them was as silly as putin's reasons for going into crimea. because you have some pro-russian citizens who are whinning about being discriminated? fuck that move out of Ukraine and move to Russia. has America ever invaded other countries that have Americans living in them because you had American whinning about being discriminated? no.
I think you're looking at this all wrong. Take a cue from Caroline's post.
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Caroline
Mar 31 2014, 09:39 AM
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Mar 31 2014, 06:26 AM
Ferocious
Mar 31 2014, 03:16 AM

...there is no reason for russia to have 40,000 troops on the boarder of Ukraine. that country isn't a threat. Obama talked about how the u.s. has neighbors at its boarders who do not agree with america but you don't see America invading them... bullshit talk about the u.s. invading Iraq because just like Obama said you had americans and he was one of them who spoke out against the iraqi war.


What you posted here is indeed true. Nonetheless, as according to Geneva Convention tenets; We illegally entered into Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya, plus we helped stir the unrest in Egypt, topped off by us basically seating the coup GOVT in Kiev.

Plus all of those nations, combined, is still smaller than the USA but we still made sure our interests, I repeat, our interests reign supreme in those nations.

So It's no different, what Russia has done here with Crimea, than what the USA did in Kiev, Ukraine...when we picked those senior officials of that GOVT, so yes, Obama is speaking very hypocritically here. But hey...




all's fair when positioning oneself, in WW3 games.
We nbeed to stop this concentrating on Obama. It doesnt matter what party is in power in the U.S. Its always the same self interest which propls the country to intefere in other countries.
The U.S. has installed an unelected president in Ukraine.
Russia is defending its Russian minority living there. And Crimea wants to be part of the Russian Federation. Thats democracy.
Do we want to see American soldiers going to the Ukraine?
The United States DID NOT INSTALL ANYONE AS PRESIDENT IN THE UKRAINE. GET YOUR LIES OUT OF THIS.. However the United States can support whoever they want in the civil fight amonst Ukranians.

Crimea is in the country of Ukraine, not in the country of Russia. Russians who live in Ukraine are Russian-Ukrainian and there political disagreements should be with the government of Ukraine not Russia.

Ukraine wants to join the European Union and Russia wants Ukraine to join the Russian Federation. (HENCE THE BULLYING). It is Ukraine's RIGHT NOT TO JOIN the Russian Federation if they so desire.

If the majority of the Ukrainian people want to join the E.U., then it is not up to Russia to go into Ukraine and annex a region just because the pro-Russian populations wants to join the R.F. THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY.
Edited by Whozthatgurl, Mar 31 2014, 10:32 PM.
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Mar 30 2014, 09:10 PM
Whozthatgurl
Mar 30 2014, 07:49 PM
Phuck the "HAS BEEN" Steven Segal. He is trying to hang on to whatever career he has and if that means kissing the asses of the Russian oligarchs, then so be it.

President Obama was so eloquent in his words when he said that Russia is really showing how weak it is by invading a smaller weaker country that was part of the former Soviet Union. Russia can't influence the Ukraine to join them so it had to resort to taking over the area Crimea that was pro-Russian from the get-go.
Feisty little Obama supporter, aren't you?
It's not about supporting Obama, he is correct and Russian is beginning to back down. They are trying to figure out how they can save face because they are looking just like the bully they are. And they are looking weak just like they are.
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