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Today. Obama went to bat for you, yep, today he met w/ Healthcare Provider Corp. CEO's
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Topic Started: Nov 15 2013, 06:49 PM (1,354 Views)
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The SOLE Controller
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Nov 17 2013, 08:23 AM
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- Nov 16 2013, 11:38 PM
...Since when has any politician had out best interest in mind? When has any politician looked out for the people and not himself? Which America do you live in, LB?
yon pink elephant, in the room, where no one dares have nerve to discuss the better option Presidents Mitt Romney/John McCain would've come up with
Are either of them really relevant at this point, since they lost? We don't know what they would've done or how they would've handled this. We don't know how any President or candidate would've handled it. Looking back 6 years ago, would you have predicted all that's going on with the healthcare rollout and debate? Yes, I would've predicted that since any Affordable Healthcare Act would be the largest overhaul of any type, in our nation's history, then it's probably not going to kick-off smoothly.
Then again, I'm an IT guy.
So I understand the unique technology challenge here. And what it means to "ask" or configure a computer system which networks for handling 10's of millions of accounts in such a short period of time.
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Nov 17 2013, 10:15 AM
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- Nov 17 2013, 07:13 AM
I think doing what the Clintons couldn't do drove him crazy. Crazy in his logic crazy in his presentation of this debacle he formulated. what lesson has he learned?
I agree with that. And payback to Ted Kennedy plays into this also.
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Nov 17 2013, 10:32 AM
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...Since when has any politician had out best interest in mind? When has any politician looked out for the people and not himself? Which America do you live in, LB?
yon pink elephant, in the room, where no one dares have nerve to discuss the better option Presidents Mitt Romney/John McCain would've come up with
Are either of them really relevant at this point, since they lost? We don't know what they would've done or how they would've handled this. We don't know how any President or candidate would've handled it. Looking back 6 years ago, would you have predicted all that's going on with the healthcare rollout and debate?
Yes, I would've predicted that since any Affordable Healthcare Act would be the largest overhaul of any type, in our nation's history, then it's probably not going to kick-off smoothly. Then again, I'm an IT guy. So I understand the unique technology challenge here. And what it means to "ask" or configure a computer system which networks for handling 10's of millions of accounts in such a short period of time. I was talking about predicting this "perfect" Renaissance man would turn out to be just another politician. I did, based on things he was doing during the campaign, but thousands would never have believed it.
But from an IT standpoint, we both have experience in this area. Since this was such a huge undertaking, maybe the IT person should've suggested rolling the program out in phrases. Then again, I don't think nothing would've stopped that rollout. And honestly, the system should be one of the least of their worries. The law itself, is the big issue.
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Nov 17 2013, 10:46 AM
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I'm sure if they'd called up Google, Yahoo and Amazon to work on it, it would've been fine instead of relying solely on a government contractor with political strings attached.
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Nov 17 2013, 12:15 PM
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However, they're just being a business. A lot of businesses screw people over in the name of profits
And Obama is a politician, he is just being a politician. A lot of politicians screw over people in the name of politics
So both are doing what they do. I get that, and I agree with that. The only difference is that one is supposed to be accountable to me and you. The other is not expected to. One is supposed to represent me and you and have our best interest at heart at all times. The other is accountable only to themselves and their shareholders. This is why I blame Obama more than I blame the insurance companies.
Since when has any politician had out best interest in mind? When has any politician looked out for the people and not himself? Which America do you live in, LB?
I said they are SUPPOSE to care. Is that true or false? Politicians are in office to serve, not to be served. In fact, Obama supposedly cared so much that he rushed the bill through by all means necessary. That's what this whole thing is about. He was acting like he cared so much about people getting affordable healthcare, yet he didn't care enough to be honest and upfront with everyone. Instead he told everyone what they needed to hear to gain support for the bill. LB, I feel you. But it's no different than a car salesmen caring to give you popcorn while you wait for that business you are about to give him. Then once you sign that paperwork he gives not a single fuck about you.
No different than that insurance company agent caring for you to lower your already high premium so you can switch to their company. Then when you do they give not the sweetest fuck as much as they acted after you switch. Poiticans are no different...
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Nov 17 2013, 12:17 PM
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...Since when has any politician had out best interest in mind? When has any politician looked out for the people and not himself? Which America do you live in, LB?
yon pink elephant, in the room, where no one dares have nerve to discuss the better option Presidents Mitt Romney/John McCain would've come up with
We cant act brand new like Obama is going to be any different. He is darker shade of the other crooks before him. They all are the same, why hoot and holler about him.
He brought it on himself by claiming there would be no more "politics as usual". He sold himself as a different kind of politician, but when people say anything about that, his supporters go crazy. During the first election, it was "He's different. We need change we can believe in." Now, it's "That's just politics." But it is politics, you tell the people what they want to hear so you can get votes. So you can be their hero. Come on now.....
They are all the same. They may have good ideas but their is always a catch. Either they like governments pockets or a group of people get fucked over or forgotten
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Nov 17 2013, 12:19 PM
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I'm sure if they'd called up Google, Yahoo and Amazon to work on it, it would've been fine instead of relying solely on a government contractor with political strings attached. Exactly. Why wasn't google on the job....they already did what government tried to do.
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Nov 17 2013, 12:20 PM
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- LadyBug1
- Nov 17 2013, 10:32 AM
... talking about predicting this "perfect" Renaissance man would turn out to be just another politician...
Sweety. Listen.
LOL
You are one who should recall, we both predicted that...w/ N8 back on ReddingNewsReview.com, right after the the Iowa Caucus, when he came out of nowhere just ignoring the Black Community all of a sudden.
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But from an IT standpoint, we both have experience in this area. Since this was such a huge undertaking, maybe the IT person should've suggested rolling the program out in phrases...
I don't know, luv, I think if they would've had the IaaS kosher from the start then we wouldn't be here...their contractor's hypervisor was inept, so here we are.
Anyhue...
Oracle is on the case now, so...it should be working flawlessly soon----with our personal/private info at the merciless-hands of an intergalactic Tech Giant.
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Nov 17 2013, 01:18 PM
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Nov 17 2013, 01:22 PM
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