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Today. Obama went to bat for you, yep, today he met w/ Healthcare Provider Corp. CEO's
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Topic Started: Nov 15 2013, 06:49 PM (1,357 Views)
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Nov 16 2013, 07:17 AM
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I'm sorry to tell you this the insurance companies will get a bailout just like the auto makers did. He projected a certain amount of money for theses companies. the geared their business towards his goals, no business person is going under because you over promised and gave them an unreasonable timeline to conform. People know the truth now they see the cost and things just don't add up realistically period.
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Nov 16 2013, 08:05 AM
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Yep. Your Healthcare Provider had their CEO present, as well, so why do you think he met with them? Was it to threaten their subsidies?...if they don't let you back into your old plan?
What if that's the case...do you then see what you're griping is merely self-serving and seeking no means for gain?
He met with them cause he lied and people (Democrat voters and Congressmen) called him to the carpet on it. He needs them to start offering those plans again that are now noncompliant.
Obama did not lie, he just didn't mention to the voters what THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD DO. People could keep their insurance. If was the insurance companies that chose to drop their customers because their healthcare plans didn't meet the new law requirements. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KNEW WHAT THE LAW REQUIRED. WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1.?
Yes, he lied. He knew people would be dropped whether they liked their insurance or not, but he chose to tell people they wouldn't. And now he's chosen to add a footnote to his statement. He was wrong, and he knows it.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO DROP THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The insurance companies collected the preminum payments from their clients knowing full well what the law required. The insurance companies took the money that was paid to them from their customers up until October 1, 2013 and THEN THEY DECIDED TO DROP THEIR CLIENTS. And then they want to blame Obamacare for the reason. That is not Obam's fault.
Obama and the insurance companies were working together, but the sh!t hit the fan, and Obama and the Dems are trying to put it completely on the insurance companies. Both are to blame.
I agree with you, Obama and the insurance companies were working together and the insurance companies that LEAN REPUBLICAN and most businesses do, screwed Obama in the back. IT'S POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST.By dropping their customers who had shitty healthcare plans so that they didn't have to comply with the law, the insurance companies underminded Obama. And they did it on behalf of the republicans. The thing that compounded the issues was the website not working properly for the people to see what their options are. You along with most of the people on here fail to realize that THE MAJORITY of people are not affected by what the insurance companies did.
Why are you letting Obama off the hook? He knew that the insurance policies didn't meet his requirements, yet he kept promising people they could keep their insurance, knowing full well, it was not true. The people who are impacted raised enough Hell to get Obama to the podium.
I don't believe Obama lied. The law is the law and as an American, you can read what the law says. Just like the republicans could have read what the laws says. AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD HAVE TOLD THEIR CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1, WHAT THE LAW SAID. And Obama could've refrained from saying "If you like your healthcare, you can keep your healthcare. PERIOD."
Since Obama and Dems knew it was crappy, they should've told people instead of fibbing about it, just to get support for it.
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Nov 16 2013, 09:34 AM
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ladybug all those customers that got dropped could have stayed with their insurance companies but they would've had to pay more money for their plan for coverage that is now required by the AHA. most of the people who got dropped had plains that didn't cover them fully if they really needed medical care. it wasn't until a lot people got sick and needed hospital care that they found out that they had plans that was full of shit. thats the truth. Then if people wanna pay for their "substandard" plans, then let them. How can you dictate for people what's good for them and how they should spend their money? Many would argue that they were paying for what they needed, and wasn't wasting money like this law wants them to.
The point is, Obama and the Dems told them they could keep them if they liked them, and it was a flat out lie. He knew it wasn't true, and continued to say it anyway. Nothing can change that.
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Nov 16 2013, 10:10 AM
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Yep. Your Healthcare Provider had their CEO present, as well, so why do you think he met with them? Was it to threaten their subsidies?...if they don't let you back into your old plan?
What if that's the case...do you then see what you're griping is merely self-serving and seeking no means for gain?
He met with them cause he lied and people (Democrat voters and Congressmen) called him to the carpet on it. He needs them to start offering those plans again that are now noncompliant.
Obama did not lie, he just didn't mention to the voters what THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD DO. People could keep their insurance. If was the insurance companies that chose to drop their customers because their healthcare plans didn't meet the new law requirements. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KNEW WHAT THE LAW REQUIRED. WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1.?
Yes, he lied. He knew people would be dropped whether they liked their insurance or not, but he chose to tell people they wouldn't. And now he's chosen to add a footnote to his statement. He was wrong, and he knows it.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO DROP THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The insurance companies collected the preminum payments from their clients knowing full well what the law required. The insurance companies took the money that was paid to them from their customers up until October 1, 2013 and THEN THEY DECIDED TO DROP THEIR CLIENTS. And then they want to blame Obamacare for the reason. That is not Obam's fault.
Obama and the insurance companies were working together, but the sh!t hit the fan, and Obama and the Dems are trying to put it completely on the insurance companies. Both are to blame.
I agree with you, Obama and the insurance companies were working together and the insurance companies that LEAN REPUBLICAN and most businesses do, screwed Obama in the back. IT'S POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST.By dropping their customers who had shitty healthcare plans so that they didn't have to comply with the law, the insurance companies underminded Obama. And they did it on behalf of the republicans. The thing that compounded the issues was the website not working properly for the people to see what their options are. You along with most of the people on here fail to realize that THE MAJORITY of people are not affected by what the insurance companies did. Both Obama and the insurance companies are at fault. If the insurance companies truly cared about their customer they would of easily contacted them via email, number mail just as they so when you don't pay your bill or when they are ready to take your money.
Obama knew what he was getting into....
One thing for sure I can agree with with whoz, let's stop acting like so many people are affected by this. And judging by people's viewpoints, the people that are affected by it are people you probably gave no shit about anyway. Those people aren't important to you up until they can be used to fit your political agenda
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Nov 16 2013, 12:35 PM
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ladybug all those customers that got dropped could have stayed with their insurance companies but they would've had to pay more money for their plan for coverage that is now required by the AHA. most of the people who got dropped had plains that didn't cover them fully if they really needed medical care. it wasn't until a lot people got sick and needed hospital care that they found out that they had plans that was full of shit. thats the truth.
Ya know, I'm so god damn tired of people like you, Obama and the entire lot dictating to people what's right for them. Why the fuck would a 55 year old woman or a 28 year old man need maternity coverage? They don't but you dictating sons a bitches know what's best for everybody. I will go outta my way to see no dem gets elected as much as I can. They have completely lost there way.
what the fuck are talking about? who says that everybody has to have the same plan you stupid ass fuck. yeah it is the governments responsibility to make sure your bitch ass has insurance so that i don't have to pay for you and the other fucking leeches who don't want to get insurance. i personally know people who have been fucked over by the insurance companies you fucking pig. and i personally know leeches to. so fuck you and and people who think like you.
If you are gonna maintain a private insurance system as obamacrap entrenches, you can't have these one size fits all policies. Many people were happy with their "substandard" policies. Paying for more than you'll ever need is stupid. bo and people like yourself erode freedom. You leave a legacy of less liberty with your mandates.
what the hell are you talking about? the insurance companies can maintain being private, they just can't screw the hell out of people in order to do it. many stupid ass people didn't know that they had substandard policies until they ended up needing some proceedured that wasn't covered. i bet you their asses wasn't happy then. fuck you and your bullshitting freedom talk. you pay for car insurance and you don't use whats in the policies. but i bet your bitch ass will go off on a motherfucka who hits your car and they don't have car insurance. "bullshitting freedom talk" huh. Yup, the idiot class Obama has in his hip pocket.
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Nov 16 2013, 12:57 PM
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Yep. Your Healthcare Provider had their CEO present, as well, so why do you think he met with them? Was it to threaten their subsidies?...if they don't let you back into your old plan?
What if that's the case...do you then see what you're griping is merely self-serving and seeking no means for gain?
He met with them cause he lied and people (Democrat voters and Congressmen) called him to the carpet on it. He needs them to start offering those plans again that are now noncompliant.
Obama did not lie, he just didn't mention to the voters what THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD DO. People could keep their insurance. If was the insurance companies that chose to drop their customers because their healthcare plans didn't meet the new law requirements. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KNEW WHAT THE LAW REQUIRED. WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1.?
Yes, he lied. He knew people would be dropped whether they liked their insurance or not, but he chose to tell people they wouldn't. And now he's chosen to add a footnote to his statement. He was wrong, and he knows it.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO DROP THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The insurance companies collected the preminum payments from their clients knowing full well what the law required. The insurance companies took the money that was paid to them from their customers up until October 1, 2013 and THEN THEY DECIDED TO DROP THEIR CLIENTS. And then they want to blame Obamacare for the reason. That is not Obam's fault.
Obama and the insurance companies were working together, but the sh!t hit the fan, and Obama and the Dems are trying to put it completely on the insurance companies. Both are to blame.
I agree with you, Obama and the insurance companies were working together and the insurance companies that LEAN REPUBLICAN and most businesses do, screwed Obama in the back. IT'S POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST.By dropping their customers who had shitty healthcare plans so that they didn't have to comply with the law, the insurance companies underminded Obama. And they did it on behalf of the republicans. The thing that compounded the issues was the website not working properly for the people to see what their options are. You along with most of the people on here fail to realize that THE MAJORITY of people are not affected by what the insurance companies did.
Both Obama and the insurance companies are at fault. If the insurance companies truly cared about their customer they would of easily contacted them via email, number mail just as they so when you don't pay your bill or when they are ready to take your money. Obama knew what he was getting into.... One thing for sure I can agree with with whoz, let's stop acting like so many people are affected by this. And judging by people's viewpoints, the people that are affected by it are people you probably gave no shit about anyway. Those people aren't important to you up until they can be used to fit your political agenda Many people were contacted by the insurance companies months before. These stories are just becoming more popular in the main stream media who are shilling for Obama. Remember that shutdown that many of you criticized the repubs about. Yeah, the one where Cruz and others discussed these very same issues over a month ago!
So you and wtg casually dismiss the people affected, ok. Well the dem pols have decided to step out of delusional obamaland and seek to do what Cruz and others wanted. Ya see, those insignificant might people affect their election prospects. Some of these dems voted with the repubs yesterday about keeping their older policies. Something they and people like yourself casually dismissed.
And oh by the way, unless you have a gubment job, the mandate for large corporations postponed by Obama will end next year. Our plans will then see a greater impact from obamacrap.
Yah, who cares. It's only freedom. Mandated servitude cause you like being a "subject" under the dear leader is no big deal!
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Nov 16 2013, 01:08 PM
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Yep. Your Healthcare Provider had their CEO present, as well, so why do you think he met with them? Was it to threaten their subsidies?...if they don't let you back into your old plan?
What if that's the case...do you then see what you're griping is merely self-serving and seeking no means for gain?
He met with them cause he lied and people (Democrat voters and Congressmen) called him to the carpet on it. He needs them to start offering those plans again that are now noncompliant.
Obama did not lie, he just didn't mention to the voters what THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD DO. People could keep their insurance. If was the insurance companies that chose to drop their customers because their healthcare plans didn't meet the new law requirements. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KNEW WHAT THE LAW REQUIRED. WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1.?
Yes, he lied. He knew people would be dropped whether they liked their insurance or not, but he chose to tell people they wouldn't. And now he's chosen to add a footnote to his statement. He was wrong, and he knows it.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO DROP THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The insurance companies collected the preminum payments from their clients knowing full well what the law required. The insurance companies took the money that was paid to them from their customers up until October 1, 2013 and THEN THEY DECIDED TO DROP THEIR CLIENTS. And then they want to blame Obamacare for the reason. That is not Obam's fault.
Obama and the insurance companies were working together, but the sh!t hit the fan, and Obama and the Dems are trying to put it completely on the insurance companies. Both are to blame.
I agree with you, Obama and the insurance companies were working together and the insurance companies that LEAN REPUBLICAN and most businesses do, screwed Obama in the back. IT'S POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST.By dropping their customers who had shitty healthcare plans so that they didn't have to comply with the law, the insurance companies underminded Obama. And they did it on behalf of the republicans. The thing that compounded the issues was the website not working properly for the people to see what their options are. You along with most of the people on here fail to realize that THE MAJORITY of people are not affected by what the insurance companies did.
Both Obama and the insurance companies are at fault. If the insurance companies truly cared about their customer they would of easily contacted them via email, number mail just as they so when you don't pay your bill or when they are ready to take your money. Obama knew what he was getting into.... One thing for sure I can agree with with whoz, let's stop acting like so many people are affected by this. And judging by people's viewpoints, the people that are affected by it are people you probably gave no shit about anyway. Those people aren't important to you up until they can be used to fit your political agenda
I'd argue that insurance companies are in business to make a profit.
It's the President who should feel more obligated to tell everyone the WHOLE truth. I blame him more than the insurance companies. He knew people would lose their insurance regardless of whether they liked it or not.
It may not impact many people. I don't know if that's true or not. To me, it seems like it does. It impacted enough people to make the Dems call a meeting with him to go over the next steps. It got him to the podium and it got him to meet with the insurance companies.
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Yep. Your Healthcare Provider had their CEO present, as well, so why do you think he met with them? Was it to threaten their subsidies?...if they don't let you back into your old plan?
What if that's the case...do you then see what you're griping is merely self-serving and seeking no means for gain?
He met with them cause he lied and people (Democrat voters and Congressmen) called him to the carpet on it. He needs them to start offering those plans again that are now noncompliant.
Obama did not lie, he just didn't mention to the voters what THE INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD DO. People could keep their insurance. If was the insurance companies that chose to drop their customers because their healthcare plans didn't meet the new law requirements. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KNEW WHAT THE LAW REQUIRED. WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL THE CUSTOMERS BEFORE OCTOBER 1.?
Yes, he lied. He knew people would be dropped whether they liked their insurance or not, but he chose to tell people they wouldn't. And now he's chosen to add a footnote to his statement. He was wrong, and he knows it.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO DROP THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The insurance companies collected the preminum payments from their clients knowing full well what the law required. The insurance companies took the money that was paid to them from their customers up until October 1, 2013 and THEN THEY DECIDED TO DROP THEIR CLIENTS. And then they want to blame Obamacare for the reason. That is not Obam's fault.
Obama and the insurance companies were working together, but the sh!t hit the fan, and Obama and the Dems are trying to put it completely on the insurance companies. Both are to blame.
I agree with you, Obama and the insurance companies were working together and the insurance companies that LEAN REPUBLICAN and most businesses do, screwed Obama in the back. IT'S POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST.By dropping their customers who had shitty healthcare plans so that they didn't have to comply with the law, the insurance companies underminded Obama. And they did it on behalf of the republicans. The thing that compounded the issues was the website not working properly for the people to see what their options are. You along with most of the people on here fail to realize that THE MAJORITY of people are not affected by what the insurance companies did.
Both Obama and the insurance companies are at fault. If the insurance companies truly cared about their customer they would of easily contacted them via email, number mail just as they so when you don't pay your bill or when they are ready to take your money. Obama knew what he was getting into.... One thing for sure I can agree with with whoz, let's stop acting like so many people are affected by this. And judging by people's viewpoints, the people that are affected by it are people you probably gave no shit about anyway. Those people aren't important to you up until they can be used to fit your political agenda
I'd argue that insurance companies are in business to make a profit. It's the President who should feel more obligated to tell everyone the WHOLE truth. I blame him more than the insurance companies. He knew people would lose their insurance regardless of whether they liked it or not. It may not impact many people. I don't know if that's true or not. To me, it seems like it does. It impacted enough people to make the Dems call a meeting with him to go over the next steps. It got him to the podium and it got him to meet with the insurance companies. You're absolutely right ladyb. Many people here don't seem to not understand the private sector operates on a profit motive. And as corporations they are legally obliged to.
The dems and Obama knew millions were going to lose their previous plans. That is goal under obamacrap. They have to get people into exchanges. Thus the requirement for mandates as well.
Former Senator Max Baucus, who helped to author this, called this thing a train wreck. Of course what would he know right. The apologist and 'bots say everything is great with obamacrap.
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not one insurance company opposed Obamacare.
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Nov 16 2013, 01:37 PM
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not one insurance company opposed Obamacare. Of course they're not. When a government mandates millions of new customers for you and will kick in billions to you for poor customers, what's to say no to.
All along the idiot class cheer on obamacrap cause it's finally gonna get those wascally insurance companies.
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