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BLACK RACISM KILLED TRAYVON
Topic Started: Jul 15 2013, 01:36 PM (1,480 Views)
reddgirl64

Ether
Jul 16 2013, 03:05 PM
reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:03 PM
EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 02:55 PM
So GZ was going back to his car and was going on his merry way and Trayvon attacked him?
Seems that way...I wonder if TM was on his merry way, when he decided to ask, in fear of his life no less,

"Why you following me"

Seems merry was not TM state of mind...
And who walked up on who reddgirl? Since you were looking out your house window and seen it all
Well, I can only go on what RJ testified to. She stated she heard TM ask GZ, why you following me...

No need for me to be a witness, RJ said her friend said this. Is she lying on TM?

Now, did she say this?
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reddgirl64

EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 03:05 PM
Affinity
Jul 16 2013, 03:00 PM
EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 02:55 PM
So GZ was going back to his car and was going on his merry way and Trayvon attacked him?
Is today the first day you've heard about this trial?
Nope.

Just the first I heard that bullshit.
Affinity didn't type it, you did. Unless, you're responding to another statement.
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reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:11 PM
Ether
Jul 16 2013, 03:03 PM
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When instructed to stop, after running behind TM, he did. His re-enactments, and his remaining on the call with 911, shows that he stop running. You no longer hear the signs of 'wind' on the phone.


And then what happened off phone, the all mighty redd. After he listened to dispatch did he continue to look for trayvon???
You're asking me to assume facts not presented as evidence, not my place to do.

He told the operator, he would be by the mailboxes, where his car was. If this is the case, then so be it.

Like I said, at some point, these two met up again, and someone hit the other, and a struggle ensued...

By the mailboxes was where he parked at first. By the clubhouse.


The point wasn't brought up in trial, that's why I said prosecution did a horrible job. It was an abomination.

GZ parked his car twice. The mailboxes then by the crime scene. Which wasn't by the mailboxes. GZ Said he got out to get an address and you sat here and debated with me that was fine. Then I give you fact, and proof that he got out for another reason. And you wanna holler irrelevant?


You can't even admit this man lied and got. Not guilty verdict. That's what gets me
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reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:15 PM
Ether
Jul 16 2013, 03:05 PM
reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:03 PM
EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 02:55 PM
So GZ was going back to his car and was going on his merry way and Trayvon attacked him?
Seems that way...I wonder if TM was on his merry way, when he decided to ask, in fear of his life no less,

"Why you following me"

Seems merry was not TM state of mind...
And who walked up on who reddgirl? Since you were looking out your house window and seen it all
Well, I can only go on what RJ testified to. She stated she heard TM ask GZ, why you following me...

No need for me to be a witness, RJ said her friend said this. Is she lying on TM?

Now, did she say this?
She did say that. And did you hear In the phone call GZ got out his truck NOT to find an address but to chase TM. Its in the phonecall...no made up shit here.

Just like how TM body was no where near a sidewalk but he shot TM who said "you got me" and fell over.

Atleast acknowledge his lies redd, that's the fucked up part about all of this. You Kenny and affinity wanna holler "irrelevant irrelevant"

But I'm sorry, lying about why you got out of the car is very relevant. Especially being you wouldn't have gotten out if you didn't have a gun.

I mean why lie anyway if you just defended yourself?
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reddgirl64

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Jul 16 2013, 03:06 PM
reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:03 PM
EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 02:55 PM
So GZ was going back to his car and was going on his merry way and Trayvon attacked him?
Seems that way...I wonder if TM was on his merry way, when he decided to ask, in fear of his life no less,

"Why you following me"

Seems merry was not TM state of mind...
That didnt answer my question.

But yes why indeed was he following him?

When he was told to stay his ass back.
Not sure if you aware of the entire timeline,

Quick synopsis:

man in car, sees young man walking, in rain, slowly, looking about at house, looks kinda like he's on drugs...calls 911

young man walking, on phone, sees man in car, stays on phone

they both stare at each other...

man watches in car, still on phone to 911, boys says to friend, crazy ass cracka watching me...friend says, might be a rapist...continue talking

boy tells friend, he's still watching me, man in car, see lad going around corner of complex. Tell 911, hurry, 911 asks for address, man steps out of car, to see address, says to 911, he took off running.....at the very same time, boy is on phone, says to friend, I'm gonna try and lose him...

Man runs behind kid, loses sight, kid is somewhere...man tell 911, hurry, kid's friend calls him back...

kid tell friend, oh shit, man is behind me (at this point, they were either walking towards same street, on the same street, or both turned a corner, boy in front of man) boy ran behind the complex, not towards his home, now he is getting back on path to home, man is returning to car...

Confrontation.....

boy says to man, why you following me, man says, i don't know what you mean....

fight, fight, hit head, hit head, girl says she hears, get off, get off, phone goes dead...

man moves to get up, gun exposed, boy REACHES for gun, man gets it first..

boy dies, man goes to jail...goes to trial, goes home...

Now, your version.
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Redd what does looking on drugs look like with a hoodie on??

Post what GZ REALLY said....but I'm sure you won't go listen to that phone call as it exposes a lie you wish to avoid.


If looking at houses means you look like a crackhead then I'm on crack everyday
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Ether
Jul 16 2013, 03:11 PM
But the phone call is fact and proof that he got out to pursue.
Everytime I debunk your line of "reasoning" you go back and start again spewing the same crap and believing it's different.

Nothing you state changes the fact that GZ lost sight of TM.
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Jul 16 2013, 03:18 PM
GZ parked his car twice. The mailboxes then by the crime scene. Which wasn't by the mailboxes. GZ Said he got out to get an address and you sat here and debated with me that was fine. Then I give you fact, and proof that he got out for another reason. And you wanna holler irrelevant?
You were ranting like a lunatic about street signs that don't exist. That was debunked and now your ranting that his reason for getting out of the car matters.

Where are you seeing the inconsistency?

GZ got out of his car for some reason.
He lost sight of TM.
He walked between the houses on the "cut through" to the next street one block to the east.
He was heading back towards his truck when the altercation took place.

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Jul 16 2013, 03:35 PM
I'm on crack everyday
Tell us something we don't know. :P
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reddgirl64

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Jul 16 2013, 03:22 PM
reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:15 PM
Ether
Jul 16 2013, 03:05 PM
reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 03:03 PM
EveryonelovesSUA
Jul 16 2013, 02:55 PM
So GZ was going back to his car and was going on his merry way and Trayvon attacked him?
Seems that way...I wonder if TM was on his merry way, when he decided to ask, in fear of his life no less,

"Why you following me"

Seems merry was not TM state of mind...
And who walked up on who reddgirl? Since you were looking out your house window and seen it all
Well, I can only go on what RJ testified to. She stated she heard TM ask GZ, why you following me...

No need for me to be a witness, RJ said her friend said this. Is she lying on TM?

Now, did she say this?
She did say that.
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And did you hear In the phone call GZ got out his truck NOT to find an address but to chase TM. Its in the phonecall...no made up shit here.


This is the part I assume you're referencing...

GZ: Okay. These a**holes. They always get away.

*you hear the car door opening, according to the audio of this call*

GZ: When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:53]
SPD: Okay, so it's on the left hand side from the clubhouse?
GZ: Nah, you go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Sh**, he's running. [2:08]

Now, is he out of the car doing something, then notices that TM has taken off running? Which is it?

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Just like how TM body was no where near a sidewalk but he shot TM who said "you got me" and fell over.


GZ stated he put TM body on his stomach. The police turned him over, in attempts to see if he's breathing, and left his body exposed to the elements. Only later, did they covere up his body.

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Atleast acknowledge his lies redd, that's the fucked up part about all of this. You Kenny and affinity wanna holler "irrelevant irrelevant"


I have never GZ told untruths, I said that the 'gist' of his story remained the same. Just because you remember certain things later, is not indicative of lying. The ME changed his story over a year later. At first he said, TM died with 1-3 minutes, now he says, he could have lived up to 10 minutes. Are you taking his lies into consideration? At first he said, the weed would have no effect, now it could have some effect on TM mindset....

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But I'm sorry, lying about why you got out of the car is very relevant. Especially being you wouldn't have gotten out if you didn't have a gun.


This is what is meant by conjecture. You're assuming that he got out, because he had a gun. You cannot point to anything to show that this is true, you believe it, but that doesn't make it true.

You see, you believe that because GZ got out of the car, this is why TM is dead. That is not true...you would have to show, that GZ intentions were to kill TM, he plotted the entire incident, shot him (you would have to explain why only one shot was fired, because Tm was seen alive, before the shot), put TM on top of his, and then starting shouting for help.

Is this your version?
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