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NEWSFLASH: Eric Holder announces the pursuit of Hate-Crime charges VS Zimmerman
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Jul 15 2013, 06:04 PM

I Never ignored GZ lies, I just stated they are irrelevant to me because I am dishonest too.

So no, I'm not going to lay out nor quantify how each lie is irrelevant, in my mind. Bcuz I dont think it's reasonable for to use GZ lies as proof of his lack of credibility nor as proof that he told more lies which I pretended to be the truth. Yes I know That is the proper way to present an argument -----so I'm not interested in it. I don't need the headache, the jury didn't need that headache. So just stop it.

You'll never get me to admit it, Cray! Just bcuz GZ told lies, doesn't mean he's dishonest!!!




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All people are judged by their clothing and behavior.



LMAO nice twist. Are all people judged as criminals and thugs?
Why does a black male have to wear a shirt and tie to not be seen as a burgler??


You act brand new all you want. But most black males know they gotta jump through hoops to been on an equal level as the white man.


That's why if I shot you right now I would get 30 years and a white man would get 15 with parole
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Jul 15 2013, 06:04 PM
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Jul 15 2013, 06:00 PM
You sitting here defending GZ to the death. I would respect your opinion if you didn't ignore GZ lies and the obvious profiling he gave a boy walking home
Just trying to get through to people who can't see beyond skin color.

Never ignored GZ lies, just stated they are irrelevant. The important issue is who attacked whom. The prosecution failed in showing GZ's account to be untrue beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Even the lead detective in the case, Sanford Det. Chris Serino, told agents that he thought Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his attire and the circumstances — but not his race
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How the hell did you not ignore GZ lies when every major news outlet spoke of them and 80% of those lies weren't even brought in court.

That's probably why GZ didn't take the stand. He would got shitted on when examined when lie after lie after lie after contradiction came up


Every I lie bring up you don't even touch bases on it. But you focus on everything that TRayvon did. When you do even skim a lie of GZ you have an excuse for it....like how you said it was a traumatic incident so he may be fuzzy on the memory.


But you banish everything trayvon did. It shows just how biased you are.
And the fact you have an excuse for every racial unfair example of thins country? Wow wtf? That's insane, affinity
Edited by Ether, Jul 15 2013, 07:01 PM.
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Jul 15 2013, 06:56 PM
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All people are judged by their clothing and behavior.
LMAO nice twist. Are all people judged as criminals and thugs?
Why does a black male have to wear a shirt and tie to not be seen as a burgler??

You act brand new all you want. But most black males know they gotta jump through hoops to been on an equal level as the white man.

That's why if I shot you right now I would get 30 years and a white man would get 15 with parole
Any younger person wandering around a high crime area in the rain looking at houses might raise suspicion.

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Jul 15 2013, 07:07 PM
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Jul 15 2013, 06:56 PM
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All people are judged by their clothing and behavior.
LMAO nice twist. Are all people judged as criminals and thugs?
Why does a black male have to wear a shirt and tie to not be seen as a burgler??

You act brand new all you want. But most black males know they gotta jump through hoops to been on an equal level as the white man.

That's why if I shot you right now I would get 30 years and a white man would get 15 with parole
Any younger person wandering around a high crime area in the rain looking at houses might raise suspicion.

He was looking at houses? So did he look into windows?
Or do you require young black men to look straight ahead and keep their eyes focused on a point so we know they aren't niggers doing a crime?
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Jul 15 2013, 06:57 PM
How the hell did you not ignore GZ lies when every major news outlet spoke of them and 80% of those lies weren't even brought in court.

That's probably why GZ didn't take the stand. He would got shitted on when examined when lie after lie after lie after contradiction came up

Every I lie bring up you don't even touch bases on it. But you focus on everything that TRayvon did. When you do even skim a lie of GZ you have an excuse for it....like how you said it was a traumatic incident so he may be fuzzy on the memory.

But you banish everything trayvon did. It shows just how biased you are.
And the fact you have an excuse for every racial unfair example of thins country? Wow wtf? That's insane, affinity
Agreed, it was hard to ignore GZ's lies. That's doesn't make them relevant.

Yes, not testfying was a smart move on his part.

You bring 'em up. I respond. You don't agree with my response and accuse me of ignoring them. The round and round is getting tired.

Eye witness accounts are often questionable. Things happen faster than the brain can process all the details. When there's something unexpected or something that doesn't make sense the brain fills in the details. That's where "he jumped out from behind a bush" could come from. If TM was the aggressor, HOW he approached and struck GZ is irrelevant. You're getting caught up in minutia.

Not sure what you mean by "banish". I was just going by the testimony and facts presented. Anyone who disagrees with your version of the truth is biased. That's fine.

How many people in here justified TM attacking GZ because GZ was following him? Trying to say being followed justifies assault is biased. A key factor in GZ's self-defense case was who attacked who. Most people here openly admit TM attacked GZ and was giving him a beating ... yet those same people are surprised by the verdict. It doesn't make sense.

Yes, we've discussed every racial injustice of this country and I've explained them all. I'm insane alright ... insanely BRILLIANT! ;)
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Agreed, it was hard to ignore GZ's lies. That's doesn't make them relevant.

Yes, not testfying was a smart move on his part.

You bring 'em up. I respond. You don't agree with my response and accuse me of ignoring them. The round and round is getting tired.



They are relevant, how can you say they aren't when they are direct ties to the crime? Changing the story on the key element of how the fight started multiple times is very relevant. Because how the fight started is what determines your innocence. Your excuse? "It was a traumatic incident"


George Zimmerman: he jumped put of the bushes and punched me
George Zimmerman 2: he walked up to me and said " you got a problem??"

George Zimmerman 3: he said "oh you got a piece? You gone die tonight"



trayvon hasn't shot at nobody and wasn't involved Ina gang. What makes you think this boy is randomly going to go hard commando and start shooting strangers?






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Not sure what you mean by "banish". I was just going by the testimony and facts presented. Anyone who disagrees with your version of the truth is biased. That's fine.


It's biased when you have an excuse for every action. It's biased when you simply cannot see that TM was profiled. It's really biased when you go find a story with a black And whites, the story has nothing written in it about hate or racism and you use that excuse this shit with GZ.


You are basically saying that any crime involving two races is suppose to be a hate crime. And all crimes should just be white on white and black on black
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Jul 15 2013, 07:28 PM
It's biased when you simply cannot see that TM was profiled.
I've admitted several times that TM was profiled - just not for the SOLE reason you're concerned about.

Ether
Jul 15 2013, 07:28 PM
You are basically saying that any crime involving two races is suppose to be a hate crime.
Yes. All or none.

Justice should work equally both ways. This could be a start.
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Jul 15 2013, 06:04 PM

I Never ignored GZ lies, I just stated they are irrelevant to me because I am dishonest too.

So no, I'm not going to lay out nor quantify how each lie is irrelevant, in my mind. Bcuz I dont think it's reasonable for to use GZ lies as proof of his lack of credibility nor as proof that he told more lies which I pretended to be the truth.

... So just stop it.

You'll never get me to admit it, Cray! Just bcuz GZ told lies, doesn't mean he's dishonest!!!




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I've admitted several times that TM was profiled - just not for the SOLE reason you're concerned about.



Was he looking in houses? Is it illegal to look at houses? So every time I see someone looking at houses I need to call the cops? Is it illegal to walk in the rain? How was he looking like he was on drugs?
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