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NEWSFLASH: Eric Holder announces the pursuit of Hate-Crime charges VS Zimmerman
Topic Started: Jul 15 2013, 05:39 AM (2,278 Views)
Ether

First off the questions I asked you had everything to do with GZ and TM since GZ made 47 calls regarding blacks that didnt lead up to an arrest.



But moving on because I just noticed something


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GZ-guy looks suspicious, why-walking slowly in rain, looking at houses, maybe on drugs....Now, the next time it rains, I am purposely looking for anyone running, especially black, and ask them, 'why would anyone with common sense, run in the rain?



I walk in the rain sometimes.....but more importantly. Did you just edit what GZ really said? If not mistaken you did....to fit your view?
Can you post to me what GZ REALLY said in that phone call not your edited version



It's ok to suspect someone. So let me ask you this, do you believe GZ should of identified himself
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Ether
Jul 16 2013, 02:47 PM
Can you post to me what GZ REALLY said in that phone call not your edited version
Apparently the government needs to create a agency to post and repost things on the internet for people like you.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Ether
Jul 16 2013, 02:47 PM
It's ok to suspect someone.
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY ADMITTING THAT!!!

Ether
Jul 16 2013, 02:47 PM
So let me ask you this, do you believe GZ should of identified himself
Really? Are we back to day 1 now? Are we really going to start over with this foolishness?

GZ should have identified himself. Not doing so doesn't make him a murderer.
GZ should have stayed in his car. Not doing so doesn't make him a murderer.
TM should have gone/stayed home. Not doing so doesn't make him a criminal. It might make him the aggressor though.
TM should not have searched out and confronted GZ. Doing so doesn't make him a criminal.
TM should not have attacked GZ. Doing so DOES make him a criminal.
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See you got ghost in that other thread.


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GZ should have identified himself. Not doing so doesn't make him a murderer.
GZ should have stayed in his car. Not doing so doesn't make him a murderer.
TM should have gone/stayed home. Not doing so doesn't make him a criminal. It might make him the aggressor though.
TM should not have searched out and confronted GZ. Doing so doesn't make him a criminal.
TM should not have attacked GZ. Doing so DOES make him a criminal.



GZ staying his car (you ran from him lying about why he got out) but staying in his car is a good decision to a civilian Not knowing what exactly is out there. Being cautious.


TM not going home MAY make him the aggressor. But you are going off the word of someone who is a proven liar.


GZ not identifying himself avoids misunderstanding of civilians who may think he is up to no good. Cops have to identify themselves and must show badge if asked to. So why do you feel GZ is above the law?
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Jul 16 2013, 10:24 AM
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Jul 16 2013, 10:03 AM
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Jul 16 2013, 02:47 AM
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Jul 15 2013, 12:35 PM
Eye for an Eye
Jul 15 2013, 12:32 PM
Zimmerman was found not guilty, because procecutors in Florida are a joke.

He was found not guilty because of reasonable doubt. No prosecutor in the country could have won that case
No, he was found not guilty because of racism. If they can lock up vick for dog fighting and allow that mutha fucka walk, I aint buying bullshit.
There was cold hard evidence of what Vick was convicted on. There's no actual evidence of what exactly transpired when Zimmerman and TM came face to face. That's reasonable doubt

....agree, at the end of the day, this is what it comes down to. They were not 100% sure.

I still thing some things could've been done differently though.
Perhaps some of you served jury duty. I have. It's not 100% sure, thus the term reasonable. How can we be 100% sure unless we were actually present at the scene of the crime. Even then witnesses aren't always 100% reliable. Reasonable means just that.

With all that said, again it's about racist scared to death whites who want blacks, esp black males, put down like rabid dogs. It's that simple. I guarantee if the situation were reversed, Trayvon would be facing life or the death penalty.
This system is bullshit. If Vick serves a couple of years in the pen for dog fighting and this racist get's exonerated of all charges killing tells us all we need to know.
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Jul 16 2013, 10:54 PM
Perhaps some of you served jury duty. I have. It's not 100% sure, thus the term reasonable. How can we be 100% sure unless we were actually present at the scene of the crime. Even then witnesses aren't always 100% reliable. Reasonable means just that.
Nice definition of "reasonable" and then this:

Snidely Whiplash
Jul 16 2013, 10:54 PM
With all that said, again it's about racist scared to death whites who want blacks, esp black males, put down like rabid dogs.
It was thoughtful of you to give us an example of "unreasonable" for comparison.
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Jul 16 2013, 12:02 PM
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Jul 16 2013, 11:48 AM
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Jul 16 2013, 11:43 AM
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reddgirl64
Jul 16 2013, 11:31 AM
I just don't get, what they are not understanding about how the system works? What is allowed, what's not, etc.....
But you wanted jury to know Trayvon was kicked out of school, weeks prior, for possessing an empty marijuana bag?


LOL


Don't you hate it? That I'm able to see right thru every oz. of deceit you post????
Dumb ass, that because I'm so smart. I didn't want to know, I already knew. His past was going to be a part of this case, solely based off GZ defense.

Get some knowledge, and

ain't no hiding from these hits, however the target is right in my path. It would be kinda hard to miss you....make it harder for me, please?
You dumb bytch, stop ETHERing yourself

LOL


Now, This, is rich!


This bytch just said It's okay for Jury to know Trayvon smoked weed weeks before that night------but its not okay for jury to know about Zimmerman's multi-displays of hatred for Black males, before that night.



LOLOL



I pity the fools in here who actually fall for the retard shyt you post, White lady.
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This bytch just said It's okay for Jury to know Trayvon smoked weed weeks before that night------but its not okay for jury to know about Zimmerman's multi-displays of hatred for Black males, before that night.


Ahh, he's getting angry...Come on, save the ghetto ignorance for another time.

Pay attention students:

When a defendant pleads self defense, by nature of law, the victim's past can be used as evidence. TM past was, and in this case, proved that his past behavior showed aggression.

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but its not okay for jury to know about Zimmerman's multi-displays of hatred for Black males, before that night


Now, for the conjecture part of your post, it's just that, conjecture. I do believe, I did post the definition of conjecture....

'Multi-displays of hatred' is conjecture. It requires that you know GZ's state of mind. It's not facts, dummy, simply, what you believe, courts don't care what you think.

Wait, do you know what that means,

state of mind? if so, then this requires another lesson...

Here, I'll dummy down some...

Uthant-judge, I believe GZ to be guilty. He called the police alot of times, his hatred of black males is off the charts.

Judge-prove you case,

Uthant-no evidence, your honor, just what I believe...

Judge to GZ- I'm sorry. You are free to go...

**shakes her head, as to how, you passed the bar**



We regret to inform you, White lady, but I'm sticking with Eric Holder and the Sanford police-dispatch ops...

with their recording of a perplexed Zimmerman showing unprovoked and whimsical anger at Trayvon when namecalling Trayvon for being Black.
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Blacks benefit from Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law at a rate far out of proportion to their presence in the state’s population, despite Eric Holder proclaiming that repealing “Stand Your Ground” would help us.

Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate higher than that for Florida whites.

Still, prominent Blacks like Holder and Stevie Wonder, who has vowed not to perform in the Sunshine State until the law is revoked, have made “Stand Your Ground” a central part of the controversy.

It will also hurt women defending themselves in domestic violence situations.

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Please, validate your claim. Please link up where you got that information.

I just researched your claim, and I found no proof that Blacks are mostly successful under this defense. So please link up proof, please provide evidence that "majority of those claims have been successful" for Black citizens in Florida.

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Jul 16 2013, 10:54 PM
Perhaps some of you served jury duty. I have. It's not 100% sure, thus the term reasonable. How can we be 100% sure unless we were actually present at the scene of the crime. Even then witnesses aren't always 100% reliable. Reasonable means just that.

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Exactly. It's just as reasonable that Zimmerman approached Trayvon and attacked him as it is that Zimmerman approached Trayvon and Trayvon attacked the white/hispanic guy giving him attitude. The prosecution didn't prove their version of what happened.

And again, you can't compare this case to Vick's. Vick's case was based on solid evidence to include financial records, there's no evidence of what happened once Zim and TM were face to face. Why can't you get that?
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kennyinbmore
Jul 17 2013, 10:37 AM
... there's no evidence of what happened once Zim and TM were face to face...
Oh, sure there was evidence. And...

-It's called his "state of mind" 4 minutes before, his violence.
-It's called both of his racist "name calling" rants @ a Black youth, for no reason, as he then disappeared behind a bldg. where that same youth is killed a few minutes later.
-It's called him disregarding police dispatch directions, just to go disappear behind that bldg. also
-Its called going the past year constantly calling police/911 whenever he saw Black males that he didnt appreciate.

Yep.

It's called the "same circumstantial evidence" and behavior, which you cheer for, whenever it's used to convict Black males of crimes...but now its unreasonable to use it onto GZ culpability---in your mind.


LOL


If nothing else, this case hopefully ensures Satan has the hottest corners of "hell" just waiting for you racists.
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