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| Topic Started: Jul 3 2013, 08:49 PM (1,484 Views) | |
| n.W.o. | Jul 5 2013, 07:25 PM Post #21 |
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White America also has a study out that more Blacks are on Welfare (actually more Whites overall are on Welfare) and that White people are a minority in the US when census reports indicate over 70% of America is white. What that means is you can trust White-backed studies that depict Blacks in a negative light as much as you can trust a President to tell you the god damn truth. |
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| Affinity | Jul 5 2013, 10:42 PM Post #22 |
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It's ANY study. Claiming that it's just white-backs studies is racist. "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics." Polls are based on statistics. Statistics are skewed to represent the outcome desired by the group paying for the poll. It's just math and people playing with the numbers. For example (it's just an example, I'm not claiming these numbers are accurate): 9% of 70% (whites) represents more people than 50% of 12% (blacks). So, 50% of blacks could be on welfare and there still be less blacks on welfare if 9% of whites where on welfare. In this scenario, one statistician could accurately say that over 5 times as many blacks are on welfare. Based on PERCENTAGES in this example, that would be true. They don't have the mention that it's based on percentage, not raw numbers. Another statistician could say accurately say that whites on welfare outnumber blacks. You tell the pollsters what you want the outcome to be, pay the fee, and they'll come to your desired conclusion without much effort. Please realize that if you're really upset by any poll you are probably purposely being manipulated. You should be more upset by people playing with the numbers than what their poll actually says. |
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| Affinity | Jul 6 2013, 01:51 PM Post #23 |
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| The SOLE Controller | Jul 6 2013, 02:09 PM Post #24 |
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WHITE LIBERAL's GUILT;personified!![]() White guy Robert Jensen put out something you've CERTAINLY read before: by Robert Jensen Here's what white privilege sounds like: I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support. The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege. So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask. He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter." That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means. That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege. White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me. I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians. I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege. What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white. My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology. Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them. I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty. But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people. All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor. There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives. Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships. At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special. I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be. White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society. Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success. Edited by The SOLE Controller, Jul 6 2013, 02:10 PM.
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| Affinity | Jul 6 2013, 02:41 PM Post #25 |
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That only fits the reality of the "woe is me, the man is holding me down" black. Most privilege that exists in the 21st century is based on individual behavior. Some can be attributed to family wealth. Neither behavior or wealth are race related. Some claim that what is confused as "white privilege" by race baiters such as yourself is actually liberal privilege (link). Of course, liberalism can't succeed without an oppressed underclass to actively support their own oppression so, unwittingly or not, you are supporting it. Come on U Thant - stop waiting for someone to carry you up the ladder. Take responsibility for your life and start climbing on your own! Edited by Affinity, Jul 6 2013, 02:47 PM.
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| Affinity | Jul 6 2013, 03:16 PM Post #26 |
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Just for you U Thant: "Until we start treating each other as individuals, and not as mere members of larger groups, we will continue to struggle with making society a more just place." (link) White Privilege debunked (link):
Edited by Affinity, Jul 6 2013, 03:17 PM.
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| beserker | Jul 6 2013, 04:04 PM Post #27 |
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“Privilege, you see, is one of the great adversaries of the imagination; it spreads a thick layer of adipose tissue over our sensitivity.” ― Chinua Achebe, Hopes and Impediments: Selected Essays |
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| Ether | Jul 6 2013, 04:21 PM Post #28 |
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This is a lie affinity, I have to disagree. I am we'll skilled at my job, many recognitions under my belt. And multiple times i have been overlooked for the promotion I know I qualify for. I was given the reason that because I has one written that hasn't dropped yet I cannot be promoted. Well upon investigating I find a co worker just got his promotion with 3.......I have 1. Then I was told its because you cannot be promoted without transferring to another district. Yet I know many who have promote right here.......no email back from that Then I was told I couldn't be promoted because my skills were in question....yet they promoted someone who they had to train.... All of these people were white........and finally a coworker pulled me to the side and said it was because they felt I was too opinionated. I spoke my mind...... Since when does speaking your mind keep from being promoted. If something is unfair.....then that's what the open door policy is for. I don't deal with favoritism and all those that were promoted were white and buddy buddy with my superiors So I'm suppose to "yes suh" and bow down to mistreatment and unfairness? So I went to HR.... We will see how it plays out.....I have moved for, city to city for this job and not once in my 4 years ever missed a day or called off, I never use PTO unless emergency. And I have nothing but positive recognition under my belt So I believe that shit uthant posted Edited by Ether, Jul 6 2013, 05:03 PM.
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| beserker | Jul 6 2013, 04:35 PM Post #29 |
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ether... give thanks !! “The lizard that jumped from a high Iroko tree to the ground said he would praise himself if no-one else did.” chinua achebe ALSO am happy to see u are learning too..... “Eneke the bird says that since men have learnt to shoot without missing, he has learnt to fly without perching.” chinua achebe. BUT still feel the answer is Self-employment i know u will get there.... hope u make it |
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| Whozthatgurl | Jul 6 2013, 04:57 PM Post #30 |
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Are black truly racist toward white or are they resentful toward whites? I believe it's the latter. A racist person in my opinion can impact the life of a person based on color. It has been proven that Employment, Housing, Lending, Education, opportunities for example have been denide based on race. I believe some Black people have racist attitudes and some White people have racist habits and beliefs. Even the most liberal white person will at times fall back on a racist habit/belief, for example when Harry Reid said that Obama was a "light skinned person with no negro dialect". Harry Reid of all people would know the reason behind Obama's dialect. Harry Reid just NATURALLY said what he said. It never occured to him that this could be offensive. I believe Blacks people's racist attitudes are based off of resentment and not really on skin color. It's just so happen that the people who they may resent the most are White people. And there is a historical reason on why they do. White people often are offended when blacks point out these historical reasons on why Whites are racist and Whites themselves sees this as blacks being racist. This is why Black Americans need to do a better job at navigating through the racist mazes of some White people. Some Black Americans HELP AID White people in their racist believes and habits toward Black people. |
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