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I guess people are missing bush now
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Topic Started: Jun 11 2013, 11:20 PM (2,026 Views)
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72MiMi
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Jun 13 2013, 12:40 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program? You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
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LadyBug1
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Jun 13 2013, 12:49 PM
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- Jun 13 2013, 12:12 PM
This is the bottom line to me. Obama's legacy will have an asterik behind it. (not because he didn't do anything) I can't give him a grade because it is unknown what progress the country could have made under his leadership because the white man refused to support him and his administration and do right for the American people. If any of you have been supervisors on the job and a little racist white bitch or white man was against everything you were trying to do, you wouldn't succede either.
Again, who told him to spend all his time on the Healthcare bill? When asked about all the promises he was on the campaign trail making, he said, "I can walk and chew gum at the same time."
With total control, he could've did whatever he wanted to do, but chose not to. And don't forget that some bills don't get passed because of last minute changes. Then, craziness gets added to the bill, that has nothing to do with the main purpose of that bill. Whose fault is that? The Dems were guilty of doing this, and running out blaming the Repubs for not voting for it. Why would someone agree to support a bill, then turn around and not vote for it? It's because the orignal bill was changed.
"If any of you have been supervisors on the job and a little racist white bitch or white man was against everything you were trying to do, you wouldn't succede either." -----This isn't a good example because in many work places, it's black people who are holding other black people back. 'Cause there can only be one at the top.
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Jun 13 2013, 12:50 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program?
You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
Then, they were not telling the truth?
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72MiMi
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Jun 13 2013, 12:57 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program?
You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
Then, they were not telling the truth? IMO I think the Pres thought it would be easier that it was/is to stop the war(s). Petraus(?) blocked that possibility in 2010. So as Rick said when you have people blocking you left and right how do you accomplish anything? BTW I don't consider anything any politician says as a promise, there are too many variables to the outcome. I view them as concerns and hopes.
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Jun 13 2013, 01:20 PM
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When you go into a marriage, you don't go in thinking it's gonna be over in 3 yrs, so you don't cheat first or rush to accomplish everything right away. If I knew a snake was in a trunk of a car that I was thinking about buying, i wouldn't buy it. Obama didn't think all this was going to happen.
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Jun 13 2013, 01:38 PM
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When you go into a marriage, you don't go in thinking it's gonna be over in 3 yrs, so you don't cheat first or rush to accomplish everything right away. If I knew a snake was in a trunk of a car that I was thinking about buying, i wouldn't buy it. Obama didn't think all this was going to happen.
I understand, but when you have control of both houses of Congress, like he did, you have to strike while the iron is hot. Why wouldn't you?
He had all these great ideas, so he should've put them through. Or at least more than just the Healthcare bill.
After Obama lost control of both houses.......It's worth noting that there were some bills that didn't go through because Dems wouldn't support it. What happened next? Obama and the Democratic pundits trotted out in front of the cameras, saying that the Repubs killed the bill. The Repubs may not've supported it, but neither did the Dems. So, how is it the Repubs' fault?
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Jun 13 2013, 01:48 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program?
You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
Then, they were not telling the truth?
IMO I think the Pres thought it would be easier that it was/is to stop the war(s). Petraus(?) blocked that possibility in 2010. So as Rick said when you have people blocking you left and right how do you accomplish anything? BTW I don't consider anything any politician says as a promise, there are too many variables to the outcome. I view them as concerns and hopes.
I understand what you're saying about characterizing things differently, but he did say that he would reach across the aisle. And he said that was how he was going to be able to accomplish so much.
Now, honestly, did he really reach across the aisle?
Or.....
Did he set the tone when he said, "I won." Nancy Pelosi said it also. They were gloating and poking their fingers in the eyes of all of their opponents. That is not the way to start your Administration. Whose fault was that? How can you possibly expect people to meet you halfway, when you've announced that you have no intentions of doing the same?
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Jun 13 2013, 01:58 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program?
You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
Then, they were not telling the truth?
IMO I think the Pres thought it would be easier that it was/is to stop the war(s). Petraus(?) blocked that possibility in 2010. So as Rick said when you have people blocking you left and right how do you accomplish anything? BTW I don't consider anything any politician says as a promise, there are too many variables to the outcome. I view them as concerns and hopes.
I understand what you're saying about characterizing things differently, but he did say that he would reach across the aisle. And he said that was how he was going to be able to accomplish so much. Now, honestly, did he really reach across the aisle? Or..... Did he set the tone when he said, "I won." Nancy Pelosi said it also. They were gloating and poking their fingers in the eyes of all of their opponents. That is not the way to start your Administration. Whose fault was that? How can you possibly expect people to meet you halfway, when you've announced that you have no intentions of doing the same? You know what, with the disrespect he was shown before any "politicking" even started......by calling him a lie in front of the world.....not sure I would have put my hand anywhere close the Viper pit across the aisle. To the other comment about he won I think he was shocked as hell that it did go through.
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Jun 13 2013, 02:04 PM
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More shit is being exposed to make the black President look worse than any other President. There is nothing going on today that wasn't going on in Washington 10 or 20 yrs ago.
.....not true :-) There are some things that weren't happening in the last administrations.
Only because of the changes that were planned and the change in the political climate.
...but Obama and the Democratic pundits went around saying that the war on terrror was over and that we've never been safer. Real talk, if that's the case, why do we need such an intrusive surveillance program?
You already know the answer to that. The War(s) are not over 10 yrs and counting and more popping up daily.
Then, they were not telling the truth?
IMO I think the Pres thought it would be easier that it was/is to stop the war(s). Petraus(?) blocked that possibility in 2010. So as Rick said when you have people blocking you left and right how do you accomplish anything? BTW I don't consider anything any politician says as a promise, there are too many variables to the outcome. I view them as concerns and hopes.
I understand what you're saying about characterizing things differently, but he did say that he would reach across the aisle. And he said that was how he was going to be able to accomplish so much. Now, honestly, did he really reach across the aisle? Or..... Did he set the tone when he said, "I won." Nancy Pelosi said it also. They were gloating and poking their fingers in the eyes of all of their opponents. That is not the way to start your Administration. Whose fault was that? How can you possibly expect people to meet you halfway, when you've announced that you have no intentions of doing the same?
You know what, with the disrespect he was shown before any "politicking" even started......by calling him a lie in front of the world.....not sure I would have put my hand anywhere close the Viper pit across the aisle. To the other comment about he won I think he was shocked as hell that it did go through.

Well. He ran quite a campaign himself. He and his crew ran weren't totally innocent.
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Jun 13 2013, 04:27 PM
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Fuck a President. Anyone balling for Bush back is no different from someone balling for Clinton back when Bush made President. Go lick anotha nigga's ass for help if you want to. If I want something I get up and get it myself.
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