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Stop the undisclosed spying of ALL US citizens!; Put up or shut up.
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Topic Started: Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM (1,113 Views)
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VoiceofReason
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Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
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Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that--
The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data;
Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime;
Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate;
Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk.
We therefore request that the President--
Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and
Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
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BlackvoicesRevenge
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Jun 11 2013, 01:53 PM
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Obama is EXPANDING policies that will negatively affect blacks more than anyone.
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Whozthatgurl
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Jun 11 2013, 02:25 PM
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Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2 Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
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VoiceofReason
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Jun 11 2013, 05:27 PM
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Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now. I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable.
This blanket surveillance is too much.
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Whozthatgurl
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Jun 11 2013, 07:16 PM
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- Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable. This blanket surveillance is too much. And you haven't been accused of blowing up or hijacking airplanes, yet you have to go through a security search when you are at the airport. So what's the difference in that privacy?
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Zechariah
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Jun 11 2013, 08:27 PM
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Obama is EXPANDING policies that will negatively affect blacks more than anyone. It seems that all of America's policies negatively affect blacks more than any others.
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Zechariah
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Jun 11 2013, 08:29 PM
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- Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable. This blanket surveillance is too much.
And you haven't been accused of blowing up or hijacking airplanes, yet you have to go through a security search when you are at the airport. So what's the difference in that privacy? When you become ok with blanket surveillance, you have a problem.
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VoiceofReason
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Jun 11 2013, 10:24 PM
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- Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable. This blanket surveillance is too much.
And you haven't been accused of blowing up or hijacking airplanes, yet you have to go through a security search when you are at the airport. So what's the difference in that privacy? The difference is:
They are using it as a tool. They not do a security search on everyone who walks into an airport, nor every car that parks on its lots, nor every vehicle within a twenty mile radius.
Surveillance is, and should continue to be a tool, used on an as needed basis. There is no justification for the electronic version of wiretapping by a government upon its citizens.
I'm going to design a t-shirt for real: Surveillance is a tool, not a culture. Link to purchase it to follow.
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Jun 12 2013, 03:27 AM
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- Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable. This blanket surveillance is too much.
And you haven't been accused of blowing up or hijacking airplanes, yet you have to go through a security search when you are at the airport. So what's the difference in that privacy?
The difference is: They are using it as a tool. They not do a security search on everyone who walks into an airport, nor every car that parks on its lots, nor every vehicle within a twenty mile radius. Surveillance is, and should continue to be a tool, used on an as needed basis. There is no justification for the electronic version of wiretapping by a government upon its citizens. I'm going to design a t-shirt for real: Surveillance is a tool, not a culture. Link to purchase it to follow. Well if the NSA and U.S. government was indeed wiretaping all Americans, then don't you think they would have caught those two brothers before they set off those bombs in Boston?
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Snidely Whiplash
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Jun 12 2013, 11:41 AM
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- Whozthatgurl
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- Truthie
- Jun 11 2013, 08:49 AM
Put your money where your mouth is folks: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Declassify and Discontinue Government Surveillance of Phone Records and Internet Activity We believe that-- The Fourth Amendment prohibits unwarranted surveillance of electronic data; Secret warrants are appropriate on a case-by-case basis, but no secret court order can create a general surveillance regime; Rampant government secrecy, even with internal checks and balances, defeats the principle of government by the people, so oversight conducted in secret is grossly inadequate; Publicizing the scope of surveillance programs may make criminals more difficult to catch, and we accept that risk. We therefore request that the President-- Suspend the PRISM program and collection of Verizon metadata; and Declassify the procedures and legal basis for these surveillance programs, so that the American people may review them and exercise our fundamental right to self-government. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-and-discontinue-government-surveillance-phone-records-and-internet-activity/Cgc46HB2
Obama did say that he is open to the surveillance debate. But for now, the American people are on his side for now.
I'm American and I'm not for this. It's been going on since 9/11 and he's just gone along with it. I'm disappointed though I can see the value of having the info. Nonetheless, its an invasion of my privacy because I haven't been accused of anything illegal or even questionable. This blanket surveillance is too much.
And you haven't been accused of blowing up or hijacking airplanes, yet you have to go through a security search when you are at the airport. So what's the difference in that privacy?
The difference is: They are using it as a tool. They not do a security search on everyone who walks into an airport, nor every car that parks on its lots, nor every vehicle within a twenty mile radius. Surveillance is, and should continue to be a tool, used on an as needed basis. There is no justification for the electronic version of wiretapping by a government upon its citizens. I'm going to design a t-shirt for real: Surveillance is a tool, not a culture. Link to purchase it to follow.
Well if the NSA and U.S. government was indeed wiretaping all Americans, then don't you think they would have caught those two brothers before they set off those bombs in Boston? wtg, this may be difficult for you to engage in but the government didn't even need wiretaps for the boston guys. The Russians gave us the info. So why didn't anything happen even knowing that info?
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